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I don't know whether it was ever offered as an option or alternative from the factory, but since both the clear-coat and the outermost layer of carbon fiber are purely cosmetic (non-structural) it can be easily DIY'd with some ultra-fine grit sandpaper.
I have no idea why they took it upon themselves to refinish the back of my neck, since all the damage/repair work had to do with the front side.
Well, 20 years too late now.
I guess there are some disadvantages to do zero shopping and practice.
Missed out on having a modulus jazz.
Meh, forward we go.
 
I was a student in music school taking classes such as Listening Analysis where you'd do deep dives into recordings and identify structural and spectral components that contribute to their sound.

this quote made me feel more ignorant than i usually do.

for a long time i tried p basses and hated them. was more of a jazz bass guy. now i hate jazz basses.

fun fact: my 3-pup basses have sounds that are very close to both basses (but that i like better).
 
this quote made me feel more ignorant than i usually do.

for a long time i tried p basses and hated them. was more of a jazz bass guy. now i hate jazz basses.

fun fact: my 3-pup basses have sounds that are very close to both basses (but that i like better).
So basically you're old and hate everything except your stuff.
;)


Yeah, i was a jazz guy but now I have a really hard time witb the "phase" issue when the 2 pickups are on full.
 
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...In short, my ear was getting more attracted to roundwound strings (and, to a lesser extent, active electronics) and so I associated that old P with the antithesis of what was becoming the platonic ideal of bass tone in my head...

I have a feeling I'm going to think of P-Bass as standing for "Platonic (Ideal)-Bass" from here on out - even if it isn't yours!
 
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I started on a J bass, and now love P basses. I figured out along the way that I prefer single pickup basses for the most part. I love the openness, and the lack of phasing issues.....although Steuart has pushed me toward his thinking a bit lately...with having (gulp) more options sonically. I usually just turn up the pickup and play, changing sounds with my hands...but now that I have two pickups that I like in my older six string, I can see what he means.
 
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At least your not stupid like me trying to find the impossible split jazz pickup that sounds like a single coil.

That's unicorn stuff.
Yet, i keep hoping.

And, yes i hate everyone equally.
:)

i still think the problem is the jazz coil itself.

ps: and where the pickup “hears” the string.
 
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Do you still have those custom 6 string P90 pickups in a bass or basses? Have always been curious about those.

yeah. they’re not direct copies. very kluged together. (long story of a life in flux [not mine] goes along with them being made.)

i’ve wanted to talk to carey about doing something along those lines. for some reason, i’m under the impression that some of his blade stuff might be veering in that direction.
 
yeah. they’re not direct copies. very kluged together. (long story of a life in flux [not mine] goes along with them being made.)

i’ve wanted to talk to carey about doing something along those lines. for some reason, i’m under the impression that some of his blade stuff might be veering in that direction.
I have one of his Acinonyx basses, and apparently the pickups are a version of his Blades. These pickups are unbelievable. Pretty shocking how great they are.
 
How do you like the bass? Seen mixed reviews on it.
I'm guessing the mixed reviews are surrounding the button controls. Those don't impress me, but the sound and playability of the bass itself is incredible. Really. Hard to believe it's so good for the cost. I know a few people who are now using it as their main bass.
 
I'm guessing the mixed reviews are surrounding the button controls. Those don't impress me, but the sound and playability of the bass itself is incredible. Really. Hard to believe it's so good for the cost. I know a few people who are now using it as their main bass.

yeah the buttons are kinda weird. Do you switch them often or just use one sound?
 
Interesting that a couple of you guys have really disliked Nordstrand pickups. I'm such a huge fan of them. A couple of the earlier designs didn't do it for me, but what they offer now is incredible (for me).

My bad...I love lots of Nordy pickups! I have a Bigman in one of my basses and it’s incredible. It’s just this one P bass pickup I bought from them that sucks to my ears. I love the Fralin P pickups because they’re a chunkier version of what I like about the vintage P thing.

@dukeorock was your nordstrand stuff overwound?

My Bigman has that overwound sound for sure. Awesome pickup.

I only tried the Vintage P they had, easily the worst Precision style pickup I’ve ever tried.
Never tried anything else they offer.
If they make a magical split J set that sounds like singles , I’m all ears.

Good choice on the Fralin, I have a really old one from before the offered overwounds. My other fav is the EMG Bobby Vega ;)

never heard the BV one. He’s such a cool dude it makes me want to try one. We’re both Mesa endorsers (or he was a few years ago) so I met him a couple times at Mesa artist get togethers. Awesome guy and does not suck on bass :)

this quote made me feel more ignorant than i usually do.

for a long time i tried p basses and hated them. was more of a jazz bass guy. now i hate jazz basses.

fun fact: my 3-pup basses have sounds that are very close to both basses (but that i like better).

I made a huge effort a few years back trying to embrace the J thing. Had a Fender CS 60’s style J bass, a Lakland with a J Retro pre and a 60’s style Bluesman Vintage, which was by far the best of the 3. I had a series switch installed which got me closer to where I wanted to be. In the end, whenever I played a J live I just spent the whole night tweaking eq to try to make it sound like a P :)
Also, regarding onboard pres. I’ve never had a single bass with one that I loved. My Dingwall Super J/P had an Aggie pre that sounded ‘good’ I guess, but always took away too much punch. Putting that bass passive with the P and J pickups wired in series was unbeatable on that bass to me. The only ‘active’ bass I currently have is a MusicMan Sabre and I’m seriously considering having Nordy make me passive replacements more in line with the Bigman pickup. Either that, or I’ll likely sell the Sabre to replace my Fano JM4 that got stolen last week.
 
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yeah the buttons are kinda weird. Do you switch them often or just use one sound?
I mean, I haven't played a gig yet with it, but knowing myself I'll just have one sound that will stay, and I won't mess with the buttons. They are a bit of a pain to be honest. I'm thinking of having a regular tone pot added next to the volume knob, and then having a series/parallel switch added as well. To get series you have to push all four buttons down at once, and it's a total pain. Again, the sound and playability are crazy good.
 
My bad...I love lots of Nordy pickups! I have a Bigman in one of my basses and it’s incredible. It’s just this one P bass pickup I bought from them that sucks to my ears. I love the Fralin P pickups because they’re a chunkier version of what I like about the vintage P thing.



My Bigman has that overwound sound for sure. Awesome pickup.



never heard the BV one. He’s such a cool dude it makes me want to try one. We’re both Mesa endorsers (or he was a few years ago) so I met him a couple times at Mesa artist get togethers. Awesome guy and does not suck on bass :)



I made a huge effort a few years back trying to embrace the J thing. Had a Fender CS 60’s style J bass, a Lakland with a J Retro pre and a 60’s style Bluesman Vintage, which was by far the best of the 3. I had a series switch installed which got me closer to where I wanted to be. In the end, whenever I played a J live I just spent the whole night tweaking eq to try to make it sound like a P :)
Also, regarding onboard pres. I’ve never had a single bass with one that I loved. My Dingwall Super J/P had an Aggie pre that sounded ‘good’ I guess, but always took away too much punch. Putting that bass passive with the P and J pickups wired in series was unbeatable on that bass to me. The only ‘active’ bass I currently have is a MusicMan Sabre and I’m seriously considering having Nordy make me passive replacements more in line with the Bigman pickup. Either that, or I’ll likely sell the Sabre to replace my Fano JM4 that got stolen last week.

I think the thing with the Nordstrand P pickups is that they offer so many of them, and it's a bit difficult to know what you're getting until you try them. With the Fralins you know what you're getting, and you know they'll be amazing for that thing. I don't play a P bass nearly enough to be that conserned with what's in it pickup wise, as long as it gets the vibe. I have the angled vintage one in my work P, but being a work bass it obviously hasn't seen a gig yet. It seems to get closer to what I wanted over the NPv pickup...and I really like that pickup, but I can see how many folks wouldn't dig it.
 
My bad...I love lots of Nordy pickups! I have a Bigman in one of my basses and it’s incredible. It’s just this one P bass pickup I bought from them that sucks to my ears. I love the Fralin P pickups because they’re a chunkier version of what I like about the vintage P thing.



My Bigman has that overwound sound for sure. Awesome pickup.



never heard the BV one. He’s such a cool dude it makes me want to try one. We’re both Mesa endorsers (or he was a few years ago) so I met him a couple times at Mesa artist get togethers. Awesome guy and does not suck on bass :)



I made a huge effort a few years back trying to embrace the J thing. Had a Fender CS 60’s style J bass, a Lakland with a J Retro pre and a 60’s style Bluesman Vintage, which was by far the best of the 3. I had a series switch installed which got me closer to where I wanted to be. In the end, whenever I played a J live I just spent the whole night tweaking eq to try to make it sound like a P :)
Also, regarding onboard pres. I’ve never had a single bass with one that I loved. My Dingwall Super J/P had an Aggie pre that sounded ‘good’ I guess, but always took away too much punch. Putting that bass passive with the P and J pickups wired in series was unbeatable on that bass to me. The only ‘active’ bass I currently have is a MusicMan Sabre and I’m seriously considering having Nordy make me passive replacements more in line with the Bigman pickup. Either that, or I’ll likely sell the Sabre to replace my Fano JM4 that got stolen last week.

I like a jazz for reggae where I can be louder in the mix than usual, but I often have trouble cutting through in other types of music. The opposite is true for a P. A P is too middy for me in reggae but cuts through nicely in other genres.

I’m lucky that Fralin is local to me. I’m a big fan of his pickups. About as good as it gets IMO
 
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