also, the end of untitled has the composer at a gallery show. a wait staffer recognizes him by name. “i saw your concert at xxxx” (one of seven people there), “changed my life.”
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
- Thread starter ttasselm
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I find this funny, yet I don't know why. I'd have the bong and the Crim poster, but that's it.
I think many of us put a lot of work in our stuff and are very serious about it.
But we have to have a sense of humour, I for one don’t mind (even rather like) being the butt of joke.
If you cant laugh at yourself, life is gonna be looonnnngggg and boring my friends.
Jeez, what kind of grown adult gets on stage with a balaclava???
I’ve also used some of my recorded stuff to get my kids to go play outside, I blasted it the tv sound system, boom !!!! Kids outside......except my daughter, she’s something special. She LOVES the most brutal music ever.
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@steubig's and @ugly's points are right on. You've got to be able to express yourself, and I actually really appreciate the earnestness of serious fans (like the Tool fans depicted). Honestly, good scholars (in any field) aren't far from that, and the nerdery in my day job is something to behold.
At the same time you've got to be able to laugh at yourself. My post rock band split the difference by playing very self-serious music but smiling while we did it. (Past tense only because of Covid.)
At the same time you've got to be able to laugh at yourself. My post rock band split the difference by playing very self-serious music but smiling while we did it. (Past tense only because of Covid.)
I've graduated to a portable vaporizer with a USB charger, but yeah.
Yeah, I don't bong anymore. Portable vapes, and we just got a desktop vape, which is essentially the vape equiv of a bong.
Ok, I need one example of said “nerdery”....please.
to add to the pretentious stuff:
The gui-tard prog @$$hat I previously mentioned, claimed he could hear differences with different types of solder material and same with IEC electrical plugs......and no.....I’m not joking!!!!!
In other news, I'm restringing the 6-er to EADGCF. emjazz's Bill song put me over the edge on that, as I'd be considering it, for a while. I almost exclusively use the 6 for the pedalboard, nowadays. When I was gigging, I didn't really need the 6 for what I was doing. Kind of excited about this, as it likely means a lot nicer chord washes. Had to do a bit of research to find the right strings, as options are a bit limited. Went with a set of GHS Boomers 5 strings - they have a set that is EADGC, and then got an additional GHS wound .020. Actually got 2, because I plan on breaking one.
If anyone has some experience with this setup and has any pointers/string ideas, please share.
If anyone has some experience with this setup and has any pointers/string ideas, please share.
+1. I find that's a delicate but absolutely necessary balance: Not taking yourself too seriously, while being absolutely dead serious about your work and its intentions, is the only way (ime) to be able to get grand, knotty, expansive ideas across without alienating at least half the potential audience...and without drowning in one's own pretentious illusions of "importance".
As much as I still wax for old prog, most prog fans annoy the hell out of me, because of the pretentiousness. They just don't understand why more people just ain't into Keith Emerson's wankery. I don't really listen to much prog nowadays, because I'm pretty much into the wordless ambient soundscape stuff/Berlin/all that other stuff I talk about all the time. Even when I was into prog, I had quite a few 'standards' that I never got into. ELP, and Rush, as two examples, and I don't like any neo-prog, as so much of it seems to be tarnished by the less- appealing aspects of 80's metal. I really liked a lot of Italian prog.
But like someone just mentioned here recently, all of these things go through phases, and prog descended into a parody of itself. I think it also just burned out because the idea of incredibly competent musicianship in rock wasn't really novel, anymore.
Hate me for this, but I found this the other day (seen an older, crappier version), and man, did this give me the feels. I can't think of a bigger disappointment in rock than what Phil Collins did after this era. Bonus points for having Bruford in there, too.
I forgot to mention to you that the wound high F has been great...hasn't broken, and it doesn't feel that it will tbh.
Man, I feel like I coulda written that sentence verbatim!
Heck, if I searched TB closely enough I'd probably find that I did write that sentence verbatim, and not too long ago!
But your sentence summarizes two very strong feelings I've had about Prog:
- I sometimes feel almost disingenuous about my Prog bona fides, because while I've always loved Yes, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant, I've always hated Genesis, ELP, and Rush. And to so many Prog fans, it seems like you can't have it both ways. Meh...eff 'em.
- I know I've mentioned this somewhere earlier in this thread, but fwiw I've often longed for some imaginary alternate history where 1980s hair metal never happened...specifically because that's the ingredient that seems to differentiate -- and that, for me, ruins -- most modern Prog vs classic 1970s Prog.
So yeah, we can hang. :beer:
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I grew up on 80's hair metal. Although I can't stomach going back to it to listen, it did teach me to be freaking great at whatever instrument you pick up. They could all PLAY.
I avoided the hair band crap with punk, hardcore and Hip Hop.
I even skipped the huge Grunge scene, except Nirvana, they could not be denied.
Maybe being a young pissed of punk that hated the mainstream had its up side in the end. Haha.
Dodged a bullet right there.
Or at least the studio musicians who secretly stood in for them on the records could play...according to some rumors I've heard on TB lol
I grew up on that same stuff, and covered it in my first band as a teenager. Funny thing is the term "hair metal" didn't come around until years later as a retroactive label. Most of that stuff was pretty awful, especially the latter days of it before grunge slayed it. But there are a few tunes from that era that I still enjoy listening to, which may or may not fit one's definition of "hair metal".
As for prog, you like what you like. I find that most people's taste in music is heavily influenced on who their friends were in their teenage and early twenties.
This hairband thing is all over Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, and anything Billy Sherwood gets his hands on. Although I think Trevor Rabin probably did more to bring in that ethos than anything, with 80's Yes. Gotta disagree with you on Genesis, though, so maybe we'll only share one beer.
I grew up with all that and just hated every single minute of it. Mostly because the hair band guys were getting the hot women
Nah, it was just dumb. Especially the weedlee-wee (as FZ once called them) guitar solos. So many notes, saying absolutely nothing.But seriously, a lot of what I hate about hair bands is now what I'd say I hate about rock, in general - the sheer vacuousness of the lyrics. Most rock songs really seem to be about nothing of any substance, whatsoever. It's why I always saw EVH as a very serious musician who played some very unserious music.
