I want a single 410 that is 4 ohm and has the tone of an 810. The tight round punchy 200 hz thump that I can drive with my SVT CL. No ports, no horn. The 410he is 8 ohm so it's not even a contender.The 410hlf doesn't have the low mid punch and I'm all about that bass (no treble). Real men don't need no stinkin' horn. The 810e is and always will be the Ampeg standard so why not try to capture that sealed cabinet punch in a smaller, more portable single 410? I absolutely love my 810e's tone but it's size and weight are just too much to move around all the time. Can't you just cut the exact same design in half and wire it to 4 ohms? I think the market for that would be huge!
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Ampeg - Are You Listening?
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If Ampeg didn't have their heads up where the sun don't shine the SVT would be 8 ohm capable - maybe cost 5 bux extra (retail) for another tap on the output transformer and another jack (or switch). The V4B should be 2 ohm capable too. Then there's the SS Ampeg heads where they may or may not like a 4 ohm load (like my Micro VR 
). All bad reasons to not make a 1/2 810. OTOH a pair of SVT210AV's stacked vertical is better in some ways, if not precisely the same sound.
). All bad reasons to not make a 1/2 810. OTOH a pair of SVT210AV's stacked vertical is better in some ways, if not precisely the same sound.
If you can track down an old SVT-412HE this may be close to the sound you're looking for. I found one and love the tone. Good power, 4ohms, not ported and has speakons. At about 100 bulky pounds it's not the easiest cab to throw in your vehicle though. The tilt and roll of the 810 & 610 I find to be easier to move around or my 412 would get more use.
You should check out the 212AV - not a 410, but a nice 4ohm cab that sounds tonally very much like the 810. It's ported, but to be honest I wouldn't know that just by listening to it. Nice warm, round, full (yet tight and controllable) low end. One of the best cabs on the market, IMO
Yes, the 212av was designed in part to give folks a smaller but powerful 4 ohm option with an SVT. Would be nice if Ampeg did a 410he in 4 ohms, but apparently there's not as much demand for it as folks think, because if there was, they'd have surely done it after 46 years. As for this comment:
As for the rest of your fact-free post, the V4B IS 2 ohm capable, and their heads have no problems with 4 ohms loads. Yes, a few of us had problems with the Micro VR and two 210av's, but that was addressed by Ampeg, and my problems went away after the cabs broke in well, and I never had any problems running it with a 4 ohm load in any combination except with two 210av's, and neither did anyone else.
If you think that's all there is to adding 8 ohm capability to an SVT, why don't you just get your SVT modded for an 8 ohm tap and see if it's that simple just to add a third tap and it only costs you $5? I assure you that neither will be true.If Ampeg didn't have their heads up where the sun don't shine the SVT would be 8 ohm capable - maybe cost 5 bux extra (retail) for another tap on the output transformer and another jack (or switch). The V4B should be 2 ohm capable too. Then there's the SS Ampeg heads where they may or may not like a 4 ohm load (like my Micro VR
As for the rest of your fact-free post, the V4B IS 2 ohm capable, and their heads have no problems with 4 ohms loads. Yes, a few of us had problems with the Micro VR and two 210av's, but that was addressed by Ampeg, and my problems went away after the cabs broke in well, and I never had any problems running it with a 4 ohm load in any combination except with two 210av's, and neither did anyone else.
Seems to be quite a bit of demand for a 8 ohm tap on the SVT for 46 years but they still haven't haha.
If Ampeg didn't have their heads up where the sun don't shine the SVT would be 8 ohm capable - maybe cost 5 bux extra (retail) for another tap on the output transformer and another jack (or switch). The V4B should be 2 ohm capable too. Then there's the SS Ampeg heads where they may or may not like a 4 ohm load (like my Micro VR
V4B is 2 ohm capable. The 90s V4BH was not, the originals and the new reissues are.
The SVT at 8 ohms would require a redesign of the OT and amp layout/wiring, whether it would be costly or not I can't say, but it's always cheaper to not make production changes.
One would think this would be a non issue for a company with the biggest name in bass amps since the 50s.
I think that Ampeg is listening, but their answer is the SVT 212 AV as Jimmy said.
You can run one...
or two comfortably with your SVT Classic.
They are great sounding cabinets.
You can run one...
or two comfortably with your SVT Classic.
They are great sounding cabinets.
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They're the biggest in name only. Ampeg hasn't been "Ampeg" for decades. Magnavox, MTI, SLM, and LOUD have been behind Ampeg's name for the last 40 years.
I was under the impression you just need a sealed cab with a maximum low of 40Hz at -3dB?
I was under the impression you just need a sealed cab with a maximum low of 40Hz at -3dB?
I've always wanted a 4 ohm, plywood, made in the USA svt410he. Ampeg could call it a heritage and sell it for a "hundy" less than the import; since they didn't give a break to consumers on vietnamese and chinese made items, but did/does sell A LOT of stuff made in viet nam and china that broke.
He should buy the SVT212. When i bought mine it came with a spec book that showed very similar numbers to the 810, but unfortunately nothing but an 810 will sound like an 810.
What's the difference really? I actually don't know, why would someone prefer one over the other? Is it just the matching of a cab with the same ohms? Or there an actual difference in sound/reliability?
Sure, modding ONE would cost a fortune - having an 8 ohm tap on all the production transformers would be a small incremental cost.
My bad - that's awesome!
My fairly new Micro VR (not a "peeler", traded one of those fiascoes away) sounds like crap on my 4 ohm GK 212MBE as well as my 4 ohm Acoustic B810. It sounds great on an 8 ohm cab. Perhaps I'm the rare bird that runs their Micro VR into output overdrive like one would a V4B? If Ampeg would like to "address" my lemon they know how to get in touch
. The only Ampeg "fix" I read about decreases the power to the point that it is louder "unfixed" with an 8 ohm cab than "fixed" with a 4 ohm cab. I do have a couple options: run my two SVT210AV's in series (I built a cable for that but cuts the power to under 100w I think?), wire up this heavyarse 400w audio autotransformer I have, maybe even try a HPF to see if that tames it? Then there's the PF500 fiasco - that seems to now be fixed?I will admit that I'd probably love the new V4B with that SVT212 cab
. Tonight's "amp of the day" at rehearsal will be an Ashdown CTM-30 with a power attenuator on it into a "fixed" Peavey TVX 4x10 . Which reminds me, I suppose that cab would work with the Micro VR - if I get help to haul its heavy arse out of the basement it lives in and then back again . I'm really spoiled by my 34 lb GK 212MBE, just loaded it up for this weekend's three gigs . It'll be the backline at an open mic we're "hosting" friday and also a two day multiband benefit we're (different band) running - pretty bulletproof with just an Aguilar TH-350 pushing it (I hope).
Easy to say when it's not your money on the line.
And you should rejoice at that because there would have been no Ampeg amps past 50w if Everett Hull was still in charge.
Ampeg THINKS they have answered this request with the 410HLF and 212AV.
But those of us who hate ports and tweeters know better.
The cab the OP describes would certainly reduce the number of posts in this forum by 10% or so, as "What small cab should I get for my SVT" is something of an eternal topic here (again, because the above options are simply not satisfactory solutions).
Personally, I found my answer outside of Ampeg, and I couldn't be happier. But, I'm also not a big fan of the 810 tone so...
But those of us who hate ports and tweeters know better.
The cab the OP describes would certainly reduce the number of posts in this forum by 10% or so, as "What small cab should I get for my SVT" is something of an eternal topic here (again, because the above options are simply not satisfactory solutions).
Personally, I found my answer outside of Ampeg, and I couldn't be happier. But, I'm also not a big fan of the 810 tone so...
