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Any hypermilers? And busting myths.

I just saw a vid the other day about why gas prices are so high, and continuing to climb. The person in the video was a TV news economist, so he at least has an idea about what he was talking about.

Would "TV news" happen to consist of Fox News? Who sponsored the video? The oil industry?

He said that the price of oil is based off gold. .65something ounces for 1 barrel. Since our monetary system has nothing actually backing it, and since our government (in the US) keeps printing money, the value of the dollar keeps declining and the price of gas keeps rising- for the US.

That dog don't hunt. Monetary growth is relatively high right now, but not at an extreme level. Inflation is generally under control in the US. Gas is going up relative to other goods because more people in the world want it, supplies are dwindling, and people are frightened about the situation with Iran. Also, the rise of gas prices is somewhat regional due to differences in refining and distribution capacity.

If the US monetary system was based off a gold standard (and it hasn't been on one since either just before or just after WWII) then our dollar would be a LOT stronger and the cost of gas would be tremendously lower.

The one thing that a gold standard won't do is stabilize or regulate prices. For one thing, prices of different things go up and down relative to one another. There were periods of both rapid inflation and deflation during the time period when we were on the gold standard. There were dramatic boom-bust cycles in food prices prior to the New Deal. Contemporary monetary policy has had an unprecedented calming effect on prices. Also, for a gold standard to have any economic effect, it has to be worldwide, otherwise the price of gold will just swing around relative to foreign currencies and we will be at the mercy of foreign governments.

"In truth, the gold standard is already a barbarous relic." -- John Maynard Keynes, 1924.
 
Jake Saint said:
Have you seen the used car market recently? It's ludicrously overpriced. a fourteen year old Civic should NOT be selling for 3-5K with over 100K miles on it. seriously.

That is because you are looking at a Civic. Buy a similar aged Mazda. It is just as good of a car, but doesn't have the same reputation, so it is much cheaper.

lowsound
 
I can't believe that ANYONE would suggest with a straight face that the price of oil is tied to that of gold. Good heavens, OPEC meets on regular occasions and sets the price of oil. Under the laws of supply and demand, they get what they want. It's that simple.

There are LOTS of far right and scam artists out there who want to tie everything to gold and tell you that you should buy gold, it's the only thing with real value, and that all our economic problems would be solved if we went back to the gold standard.

Don't believe a word of it. Those people have their own paranoid agenda to sell, and buying into it isn't going to gain you a thing.
 
Here's what happens if laws are passed that impose strict monetary policy on governments. Those governments either invent new ways of cooking the books, or they end up getting pwned by other countries. Look at Greece.
 
That is because you are looking at a Civic. Buy a similar aged Mazda. It is just as good of a car, but doesn't have the same reputation, so it is much cheaper.

lowsound

Hondas have always held a lot of value, but the used car market is very high right now, and it's not going down anytime soon.

When the recession hit a few years ago, less new cars were sold, so there's less late model used cars coming into the market...the average age of people's cars is older now, and dealers are taking in older cars in trade. So the supply on newer used cars is low...

Someone mentioned a page back or so that 3 year old cars were 1/2 the cost of new....good luck with that one...at least not easily gonna find Honda/Toyota/Nissan/Subarus that cheap, unless they're higher mileage.
 
Hondas have always held a lot of value, but the used car market is very high right now, and it's not going down anytime soon.

When the recession hit a few years ago, less new cars were sold, so there's less late model used cars coming into the market...the average age of people's cars is older now, and dealers are taking in older cars in trade. So the supply on newer used cars is low...

Someone mentioned a page back or so that 3 year old cars were 1/2 the cost of new....good luck with that one...at least not easily gonna find Honda/Toyota/Nissan/Subarus that cheap, unless they're higher mileage.

This is my point. cars should not cost as much as they do right now, but they do. in order to find an affordable car a year ago, when my beloved Jetta of 225K miles dropped a gear, (reverse. typical MK3 jetta problem i didn't know about) the only affordable car i could find was an 87 nissan. and even that cost me just shy of a grand.

this is absurd!
 
I can't believe that ANYONE would suggest with a straight face that the price of oil is tied to that of gold.

I dont even believe the US dollar is tied to the price of gold.

Anything is only worth what another is willing to pay for it. If all the world economies were to collapse what would gold be worth? Nothing. But commodities like fresh water, food, shelter, weapons, medicine and other necessities will cost, quite possibly, an arm and a leg.
 
I'll take the bait and say that the banking and loan industries have driven up the rates of colleges automobiles and houses. Spread something out over a long enough period of time and the difference is negligible.

Nope. If people are genuinely interested in why i feel used car prices are so much higher than they should be, i'm more than happy to expound via PM, but i'm not going to get a relatively fun thread closed down over my own opinion.
 

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