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#42
MultiScaleMale said:
I was thinking today that it would be nice to have an amp that has a built-in tuner and compressor. Then I could use that as a all-in-one to take to gigs or practice at home, same rig. I could just take that and use the DI if it's a IEM gig or bring along a cab or two if needed. Completely ditch the pedalboard, all I would need is bass, amp and maybe a cab or two. I think only the Bergantino B|AMP checks the boxes. Are there any others? I guess a Helix and powered cab would do the same thing. Sub out the Helix with Quad Cortex's unobtanium and I'm sure there are other modelers.
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It doesn't have a built-in tuner (has a tuner output), but my [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] amp has a really nice compressor with adjustable threshold and ratio. EQ centers are bass=35Hz, Low-mid=500Hz, Hid-mid=2KHz, Treble= everything from 2KHz on up.

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#43
a bit late to this thread. Mesa MPulse 600 which is a great amp and has a pretty nice 2 knob comp (Threshold and Ratio). No tuner, but I'm with those who use clip-on tuners (I happen to use the TC Polytune and am very happy with how accurate it is).

good luck OP
 
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MultiScaleMale said:
I was thinking today that it would be nice to have an amp that has a built-in tuner and compressor. Then I could use that as a all-in-one to take to gigs or practice at home, same rig. I could just take that and use the DI if it's a IEM gig or bring along a cab or two if needed. Completely ditch the pedalboard, all I would need is bass, amp and maybe a cab or two. I think only the Bergantino B|AMP checks the boxes. Are there any others? I guess a Helix and powered cab would do the same thing. Sub out the Helix with Quad Cortex's unobtanium and I'm sure there are other modelers.
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BH500

You can get them used for 300 bucks. They sound great, are built like tanks, have 4 set able pre amp channels, tuner, spectra comp, tube tone, Di, and speakon out.

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#49
two fingers said:
The moment that head gets released this whole crowd would be gathering pitchforks and torches.

"What???? A one knob????? Seriously????"

"Buncha idiots! Why not just go with a one knob. Quit making things so complicated!!!!"

"No blend???"

"I can't believe the ratio only goes from (insert arbitrary figure here) to (another arbitrary figure)."





Yeah no way would I want to dive into that mud puddle. And I don't blame amp designers for not wanting to either.
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I'm kind of a one-tool-for-one-job guy, that's why I light my pitchfork on fire whenever someone incorporates a compressor into a preamp pedal or amp head. Saves me from deciding if I feel stabby or burny that day and I can stand right in the middle between the torch people and the fork people.

I caught myself trying out gear with built in features like that and disliking those features without even giving them a try.

I distinctly remember being mad at EBS for including tuner and comp into the Microbass 3 and trying both functions for about a minute each before I decided that what I got on my board is way better and that this is unnecessary redundancy.
 
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Well, a tuner should be a tuner, but not sure what amps have a decent onboard compressor.
I'd suggest looking closer at Berg for their version.

I'm not convinced onboard stuff is necessarily always ideal.
A decent soundman will soon put you straight re the quality of your DI, for example.
 
#52
I’m sure it’s no secret, but a tuner pedal is handy on stage. It’s nice to be able to mute and tune without touching your amp, and it is nice to have a pedal on the ground so your instrument cable doesn’t inadvertently get pulled from the amp or worse pull the amp off it’s stand.

The Sonic Research turbo tuner can operate with a 9v battery, doesn’t drain the battery when not engaged, and it’s an awesome tuner. As you’ve read the only amps with the tuner and compressor are less desirable offerings. There are a few great amps with good compressors. I’d be looking at GK fusion amps if I didn’t have a Darkglass head with the Turbo Tuner in front. Everything fits in one bag and it is easy peasy to get a tremendous tone through FOH or through a cab.

I love your idea and I could see it becoming a thing. Maybe just a big ol fully featured pedal with a 350w class D section for emergency use only. I’d buy one.
 
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ThinCrappyTone2 said:
That's pretty subjective. As someone who owns and has owned lots of amps, including Mesa, Genz, Ampeg, Trace, I wouldn't call the TC stuff a less desirable offering. but YMMV
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It is subjective, but I never said they were bad. I have had 2 of the TC amps and they were great for the money. OP referred to Bergantino and Quad Cortex, so I’m assuming that he would deem TC gear less desirable.

Definitely a YMMV situation. I also own a large handful of amps and they each have their pros and cons. Using the amps direct out for IEM purposes will really reveal the quality of the DI and this is where more refined preamp designs shine. I wouldn’t choose TC over the amp brands you have listed for a compressor and a tuner.
 
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I think the available USB power port on my Mesa WD800 pretty much solves the issue. I use it to power a Korg Pitchblack pedal tuner....and the tuner has an isolated extension that allows me to run a pedal comp as well. I only need to plug the head into the wall. 2 small pedals easily fit into the same bag as the head, and I can choose from many compressors (albeit none with massive current requirements). The head would be even more versatile if the USB port supplied more juice, and was simply user adjustable between 9 and 12V with a toggle (like the ports on my CIOKS 7 power supply).
 
#59
lomo said:
I think the available USB power port on my Mesa WD800 pretty much solves the issue. I use it to power a Korg Pitchblack pedal tuner....and the tuner has an isolated extension that allows me to run a pedal comp as well. I only need to plug the head into the wall. 2 small pedals easily fit into the same bag as the head, and I can choose from many compressors (albeit none with massive current requirements). The head would be even more versatile if the USB port supplied more juice, and was simply user adjustable between 9 and 12V with a toggle (like the ports on my CIOKS 7 power supply).
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The USB power port is by the standards 5 volts. The current is the USB de-facto base current level of 500mA and will deliver this on a continuous basis. This equates to 250mA at 9 volts which will handle the majority of analog pedals on the market.

Just a note, I often see pedals labeled as say 200mA yes under real measurements end up in the 30mA range. Why some pedal builders do this I have no idea.
 
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