Anyone tuning at 432hz?

[bassbrad]

There's a lot of truth to that.

I earned my bachelors in photography in California in 1982. I grew up learning to see photos and movies with film grain, and both had a certain visual tonality unique to those mediums. When digital still camera came to replace film cameras, and CGI began to make it into films, (the first Shrek), the lack of grain made some things look too different, too perfect, hence fake or unsettling. That effect is called the Uncanny Divide.

Now, when I am visiting someone and they are watching a Sean Connery James Bond weekender festival on their über HD extra sharp big screen with intensely algorithmized originals to get into that über HD, Blue Ray, Space Ray format, I can't even watch them.

I think that Uncanny Divide also describe the reason some prefer to listen to music on vinyl over digital formats. I have seen that difference comparing VHS to DVD to BluRay on video of the same movie. Done the same thing with music on different formats - comparing different versions on reference class systems can be staggering. Sometimes the differences are better and sometimes the opposite, but ymmv as always.

Friends and I have had endless listens & discussions about the various Beatles versions on vinyl, Lp, 45, CD, reMastered, ReMixed and such. There is no agreement - none.

 

[Droopy_TX]

Since someone way back in the thread raised the question of tuning when you have no tuner available, I'll leave a couple of facts here that will help them get close. Using the A=440 standard, B1=61.74 Hz. Use any source of 60 cycle hum to tune B1 and you will be "close". If you play in a country with 50 cycle AC, then G1 is your "close" target (49 Hz).

For the A=432 crowd, you can actually get a little closer using this method. (B1=60.61 Hz) (G#1/Ab1=50.97 Hz).

My guitarist will be happy to know that humming conglomeration of pedals, patch cables, baling wire, spit, and bubble gum at his feet actually has a dual purpose.

 

[lowlandtrees]

Joined a band recently that has decided to tune down to 432. None of my (4) tuners go there. The app on my phone is my only tuner that does it. Bit annoying from that point of view but turns out that it suits the singers range nicely and I am up for trying new stuff.

 

[mdjazztheatre]

FWIW, the "formal" A=432Hz movement is largely run by a fringe political group that keeps duping famous people using flimsy arguments, and isn't based on any science whatsoever. Invalid Link Removed

If you like 432, use it. If you like 446, use it. The bands I play in use 440, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

 

[Conductor 14]

I have an old flute that's A=435. Can't be tuned up enough to play with a modern orchestra at 440 or higher. Really nice instrument, a great player, but useless.

Is there no cork plug attached to the crown on the head joint that might be used to adjust? What brand/model is it? I have a good friend who is a Haynes specialist. who could probably figure something out. Are you sure it's a C flute and not a Db?

 

[EastRiverDock]

Schumann resonant frequencies are 7.83 Hz (fundamental), 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz, so you can resonate with the earth harmonics, too -- actually with the vibrations caused by energy from lightning resonating in the waveguide created in the space between the surface of the earth and the ionosphere. I wish knowing this helped my playing.

 

[Fuzzbass]

Joined a band recently that has decided to tune down to 432. None of my (4) tuners go there. The app on my phone is my only tuner that does it. Bit annoying from that point of view but turns out that it suits the singers range nicely and I am up for trying new stuff.

I'm so sorry.

Most of the bands I play with tune down for vocal reasons. They all use the standard practice of going a half-step down. Easy peasy. No reason to use an awkward, meaningless number like 432Hz.

 

[Fuzzbass]

This 432Hz nonsense is just more evidence that the internet is making us stupider.

A friend of mine has become a flat-earther because "most of what we've been taught is wrong, NASA is full of poop, these guys on YouTube have truth that everyone else is hiding from you". He's definitely not an idiot, and I'm shocked that he's fallen for it. I first heard of the 432Hz silliness from him.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

This 432Hz nonsense is just more evidence that the internet is making us stupider.

A friend of mine has become a flat-earther because "most of what we've been taught is wrong, NASA is full of poop, these guys on YouTube have truth that everyone else is hiding from you". He's definitely not an idiot, and I'm shocked that he's fallen for it. I first heard of the 432Hz silliness from him.

There's still hope. I knew a guy that believed that we were ruled by the reptilians that travelled in a vast underground tunnel system. He came around.

 

[eeLALlen]

I once tuned the G string on my Fender Precision to almost an octave higher... then the string broke. (Important note to others: NEVER try to tune an instrument while on acid...)

 

[MultiScaleMale]

I once tuned the G string on my Fender Precision to almost an octave higher... then the string broke. (Important note to others: NEVER try to tune an instrument while on acid...)

I've killed quite a few strings on acoustic guitar because I thought I was tuning another string.

 

[Toneguy66]

Put down the bong, get some fresh air.

 

[gln1955]

There's still hope. I knew a guy that believed that we were ruled by the reptilians that travelled in a vast underground tunnel system. He came around.

432 and the flat earth are preposterous of course. I'm not so sure about the reptilians though...

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I knew a guy that believed that we were ruled by the reptilians that travelled in a vast underground tunnel system. He came around.

That's absurd! Musk hasn't built them yet.

 

[Sholmer]

I play either URB or fretless 5-string with a couple big bands and small jazz groups - my rule is to play in tune with WHICHEVER INSTRUMENT IS LOUDEST at any given moment!

 

[LBS-bass]

This 432Hz nonsense is just more evidence that the internet is making us stupider.

A friend of mine has become a flat-earther because "most of what we've been taught is wrong, NASA is full of poop, these guys on YouTube have truth that everyone else is hiding from you". He's definitely not an idiot, and I'm shocked that he's fallen for it. I first heard of the 432Hz silliness from him.

I just shut down a group on Facebook that I'd started a while ago for people whose dogs have a specific rare disease that is very hard to manage. It had gotten to the point where there were so many misinformed people coming to the group and shouting loudly about what they thought to be true. A lot of potential harm involved and I couldn't keep on top of it, it just kept getting worse.

Basically, whoever makes the most noise is winning at this point, regardless of what they actually know. It's ridiculous.

 

[akaigoro]

I just tune my "A" to 8hz like a bass should be, and let all you 432hz guys play 54 octaves higher in the treble registers.

432/8=54 times, not octave. One octave equals 2 times, two - 4 times, ... five - 32, six - 64. So 54 times is between 5 and 6 octaves.
And exact tone of lowest A in 432 scale is 13.5 Hz. 8.025 Hz is C.

 

[superheavyfunk]

I get irrationally annoyed when I'm hired by folks who want me to tune to A=432. Especially when they have cover tunes in their set that they expect me to learn.

 

[LBS-bass]

I get irrationally annoyed when I'm hired by folks who want me to tune to A=432. Especially when they have cover tunes in their set that they expect me to learn.

I don't think that's irrational. I think it's irrational to expect everyone to buy into that when it's not grounded in science and there's a 440 standard.

It makes sense to downtune by a half step if your singer doesn't have range, but it does make it harder to learn covers. A better solution to that is to find a singer with range and choose songs that they are comfortable with.

 

[Ronzo]

Oh yeah? Then how come all the ladies dig me so much when I tune to 432? Answer me that mister smarty pants!

“If you’re so smart, why aren’t you the head of midwestern sales like George Tuna?

I dare you to print this.

George Tuna
Oshkosh, Wisconsin”