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Are Landing basses THAT good?

A couple things...

1. Beware that the DS do have a midrange thing going on that some may not like. Its unlike any other pup I've heard

2. One thing you might consider if money is still tight is the SX shortscale jazz bass with different pickups. I have one and have a set of DiMarzio Model Js in it. Sounds very good and full. The Model Js have pole pieces which are adjustable in terms of height so you can get every string perfect. If you bring the bass to a good luthier he should be able to set it up with low action. You might have to have the nut filed or replaced and I'd also think a fret dressing would be a good idea.

As to the Landing models I would email Jimmy. He is a great guy and very helpful. He will likely be able to answer questions better than anybody.

BTW, I put active EMGs in an SX ss P I really liked the tone. Very clear sounding. However, I've never been a fan of active basses and the hassle with batteries so I swapped it.

Good luck.

Thanks, I do like the SX as far as general build quality for the price (I seem to have gotten a good one neck/fret/body wise, the nut, tuners and bridge are another matter - adequate is about the best I'll say). The electronics really aren't up to snuff, and I don't want to invest a whole lot in it, though maybe a new pickup, nut and tuners would keep me happy for now without costing too much. No other inexpensive short scale has really enticed me into considering it, even a mid-priced Fender Mustang I tried didn't do anything for me.

I'm guessing the YouTube clips I listened to aren't giving me a totally accurate sampling of the Darkstar sound, since I didn't really hear the more pronounced midrange you mention. I have to find a DS-equipped bass with flats and give it a try first before I consider it.

Actives I don't think would bother me, I'm a knob-twiddler from way back, and as long as there's a way I could get a sound I like, I'd be fine with it. As far as asking Jimmy, I don't want to pester him until I can pay for what I order outright. I asked him questions last year, only to have to back out. I doubt he was a hundredth as disappointed as I was about not selling me a bass.
 
Landing LDS2 30" Shorscale soundclips

google Reverbnation - search Papasean Johnson -

all the songs listed below were done with this bass (no effects just plugged into the mixer through a BDDI DI with flat EQ)

The songs are:
Movin' On
Ain't no friend of Mine
Young & Restless
Still Love That Girl
Listen to me Girl
Boogie Man
Starting Over
Long Weekend

I just love that bass, and those DS pups are wonderful tonewise, very versatile though I kept pretty much the same settings for all those songs....anyway....I love 'em

Last year, I was almost on the point of ordering a Landing, but I was laid off, so it'll have to wait until the end of this year. I found I was better off with short scale after buying my SX P-clone shortie as an experiment. It turned out that short scale was an answer to my hand problems. I had my technique on my 34" scale P-bass Squier checked out by a good instructor recently and he saw only minor problems with my left hand, but it pretty constantly gives me pain now while playing it for any long periods. When playing the SX, no pain, but it's not so great a bass, action is a bit high and the G string always sounds weak. I want one well-built bass in my stable, so back to the Landing. One problem I have is I can't quite make up my mind which model. There are so few sound clips, and I want something that's flexible but able to give a good P-bass thump (I play flats, and the SX sounds good here except for the weak G). I've heard other Darkstar-equipped basses on YouTube and through that an LDS2 seems very attractive, but I also wonder if the L3 can give me both the thump and some flexibility in case I want to try a different sound in the future without having to buy a different bass. I've never played an active bass, and EMGs seem to engender a real love/hate relationship. Any thoughts?
 
Thanks. I listened and I still like the sound of the DS pups, but I'll be hanged if I spend that kind of money without checking them out in my hands through a clean channel in a handy amp. Finding active EMGs is easy, Darkstars I may have to make a trip to find a bass to test, there doesn't seem to be one for sale around town right now.
 
+1 for the Darkstars - I don't think they're hyped or overrated. A really clear tone, high output, adjustable pickup. The sound of my LDS2 blows any of my other basses out of the water. No exaggeration.

EDIT: I don't find my Darkstars to be too midrangey... It sounds a lot fuller across the tonal spectrum than any of my p-basses. I dunno, maybe they're sensitive to placement? I think a bass with a Darkstar in p-pup position would sound really killer.
 
I think I have enough testimonials from those willing to spend the kind of money for a Landing (okay, it's not an Alembic, I'm only working part-time now) to earnestly track down a DS-equipped bass (one in the P position) and check it out ASAP. If it's really fuller than a P-bass I think I'd love it. That's what I hear in the better recordings, a fuller punch. I'm glad I asked about it.
 
Keep in mind that the DS is a very sensitive, high-output pup. The tone of mine changed DRAMATICALLY with pole piece adjustment, I dare say more than raising or lowering my p pups. Also keep in mind that it is a single coil pup, so it's going to have a different character than the split coil p pup. I'd love to rout out a cheap p-bass and A/B a DS with a Norstrand NP4 and compare notes.

BTW I think a DS with flats would sound THUNDEROUS.
 
Keep in mind that the DS is a very sensitive, high-output pup. The tone of mine changed DRAMATICALLY with pole piece adjustment, I dare say more than raising or lowering my p pups.

BTW I think a DS with flats would sound THUNDEROUS.

Excellent! I like experimentation, and as far as P-bass sound, I'll never be Jamerson so if I have my own sound, all the better. Jimmy I'm sure will set me straight if any of my ideas aren't reasonable. The worst thing was there wasn't a DS-equipped bass within a 100-mile radius of me when I checked CL. Same with the local music stores. There will be eventually one, I'm sure.
 
THUNDEROUS

I switched to flats 6 months ago and yes - THUNDEROUS is one of the words that could describe the sound - I could think of a few others too - like WOW, OMG and a few others

Keep in mind that the DS is a very sensitive, high-output pup. The tone of mine changed DRAMATICALLY with pole piece adjustment, I dare say more than raising or lowering my p pups. Also keep in mind that it is a single coil pup, so it's going to have a different character than the split coil p pup. I'd love to rout out a cheap p-bass and A/B a DS with a Norstrand NP4 and compare notes.

BTW I think a DS with flats would sound THUNDEROUS.
 
I got my mediumscale LandingBass in December 1996 and I'm still very satisfied with it: easy playability, stable neck, exactly the sound I want with the EMG-CS picks a n d great support by Jimmy W.! There are so many options, so you can have build exactly the bass you want. I'm using heavy EB-strings (55-110) and it sounds like a warm thunder! Regards DanielE from Switzerland.
 
Bassist, they are custom Aero pickups with large pole pieces built by Larry for Jimmy's specs. I love how they complement the dot inlays. :) I think I ordered back in October or November last year? He's been a very busy man. I wouldn't hold your breath for yours :(
 
Just wanted to post a few more words of praise for my Landing LDS2. I wanted to say more now that I've owned it for a while. I've been playing it a lot lately (more than when I first got it - was still really into my p at that time), and it wins me over a little more each time I pick it up. It is a really, really nice bass. It is in fact nicer than my other basses in any arena I can think of. The finish is truly a cut above average, with a subtlety and attention to detail that to me only seems to come on handmade instruments. The neck is satiny smooth, a perfect thickness for me, and the glue job on the rosewood fretboard is again superb - it looks like the neck wood (not sure what it is) just seamlessly becomes rosewood, like they grew together that way. The balance is perfect (or at least, was originally - the previous owner did some mods that lightened the body, making it *slightly* neck-heavier than I would ideally like it. But it is clear that Jimmy carefully ensured that it had a perfect balance to it before it left his shop). And the tone... oh, the tone... Partial credit here is due to Mr. Hammon for his fantastic Darkstar pickups, and to DR strings for the Lo-Riders she's currently wearing, but Jimmy Landing really does deserve kudos here as well. The intonation is perfect, and each string retains clarity all the way up to the last fret. I've never played a bass that sounded so good playing chords, or that delivered the level of clarity and just plain fidelity that this bass has. She stays in tune, she's easy to GET in tune, the neck pocket is tight, the pots have a "weight" to their action that feels quality, the pickguard is beautiful, she's in the 8lb. sweet spot for overall weight, the shielding is excellent... and on and on and on.

My ONE gripe (and it's not insignificant): the strat style body on this bass means that the strap button on the upper horn floats above the 14th fret instead of the standard 12th. This means that there's an extra inch or two of reach to get to first position, which negates some of the point of getting a shorter scale instrument to begin with, for me anyway. However, I have contacted Jimmy to see if anybody has requested he modify this before, and he hasn't, but we discussed a couple of ideas and he's looking into it. The level of service he has given me so far is really noteworthy (lengthy email help and discussion, and sending me spare parts for FREE), considering I haven't paid him a dime - this is a used bass. He's proud of his instruments and he wants people to love them.

I've been playing basses and guitars for well over a decade, and I think I've learned a thing or two about how a good instrument is made, how it should sound and feel. This bass is a success. It is an instrument at whose quality I marvel every time I pick it up. Not everybody is going to like what Jimmy is going for, stylistically and tonally, but I can't imagine anybody finding fault in the build quality of this instrument. This is not a "new bass rave review" - I really just find it to be that good. At the price Jimmy sells these for, I feel they are peerless.