Sort of defeats them.. It' on my mind as I just picked up a Demeter HPB-1 800d from the classifieds. I was using either a Markbass LMK or a Trace v type pre in a 2 space rackbag with a rad icepower 1000. The idea is to put the demeter in the rackbag and sell of the other stuff. So just thinking about ways to left the rackbag and keep the two ports on my hathor 1203 clear.