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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...
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- Nov 24, 2008
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Briefly, the most important difference is, the 3" cone mids in the Hathor 1533 are still available, while the 5" cone mid in the Hathor 1505 is no longer available.
But you said "C1533" and "C1505"... did you mean the Changeling 115, which has two front-firing 3" cones and also two rear-firing 3" cones? I never made any 15" Changeling cabs with the 5" cones.
Anyway the difference between the twin 3" cones versus the single 5" cone is, the twin 3" cones go higher while the single 5" cone is louder (more grindy) in the upper-mid region.
Just getting back from vacation and I haven’t touched a bass in 12 days but I’m anxious to get back to the gigs and feeling inspired. Posted the pic of my AK stack very recently and failed to mention that the bottom cab is a H1203 and the top cab is a C1203.
Have played them both together at very low bedroom volume and brought C1203 to a club I rarely play anymore but love. Was able to really pump it and can’t wait to try them both together in the next few weeks.
Going to post some more pictures soon and show something that I thought of while basking out in the Atlantic. Hopefully it’ll work out as planned and I will have the ultimate gig rig (at least for my usual usage) and I’m hoping others might benefit from my newfound discovery. Unfortunately, it’s nothing scientific or medical, however, I do consider it a cure for the gigging bassist
Have played them both together at very low bedroom volume and brought C1203 to a club I rarely play anymore but love. Was able to really pump it and can’t wait to try them both together in the next few weeks.
Going to post some more pictures soon and show something that I thought of while basking out in the Atlantic. Hopefully it’ll work out as planned and I will have the ultimate gig rig (at least for my usual usage) and I’m hoping others might benefit from my newfound discovery. Unfortunately, it’s nothing scientific or medical, however, I do consider it a cure for the gigging bassist
shrigg, i checked out duke's site - the 1505 is listed as good to go, but with eminence 5".
- Nov 24, 2008
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That page on my website is out of date.
I have enough of those 5" Eminence mids on hand to fill existing orders, along with a couple of spares just in case.
Yay! I received my Changeling 112T Wednesday. Used it for a rehearsal with the band last night, and will bring it out tomorrow night for a gig, perfect timing!
Big, big thanks to @DukeLeJeune for following up with FedEx through the whole process to ensure I got it in time - if it weren't for his intervention I would've gotten it later. Many others would have just said "Hey, it's shipped - I did my job and it's out of my hands now." But not Duke. Buying something has never been such a pleasant process - I can't stress this point enough.
I'm real happy with the Quilter / Changeling combo. Rehearsal was 3 hours yesterday and I showed up early to try out different combinations before my bandmates arrived. I really like the different voicings you get from this cab before touching anything on your amp or bass. Both mids and highs switches down gives a nice, kind of old-school mellower tone. Both switches up is more at the gnarly/hi-fi end of the spectrum. What I ended up settling on yesterday was the mids switch up, and the highs switch down - thought it paired perfectly well with the tone of my passive p-type bass and the music my band plays.
I played around with the ports, too. It is quite impressive how much this small cab fills the room with all ports open! After trying a few things I prefered plugging two ports (in a diagonal, as recommended by Duke) for this particular room. Volume-wise, my amp was at 50% overall and I was plenty loud enough within a loud band. Similar results that I obtained previously with a borrowed Hathor 1203, but with noticeable extra low-end, if my memory is right.
Quite enjoyed the single trip load-in/out, too. Bass on my back, gig bag in one hand (amp head, pedalboard, cables) and cab in the other. I have a Tuki padded cover on the way and when I get it, I'll be all set.
Big, big thanks to @DukeLeJeune for following up with FedEx through the whole process to ensure I got it in time - if it weren't for his intervention I would've gotten it later. Many others would have just said "Hey, it's shipped - I did my job and it's out of my hands now." But not Duke. Buying something has never been such a pleasant process - I can't stress this point enough.
I'm real happy with the Quilter / Changeling combo. Rehearsal was 3 hours yesterday and I showed up early to try out different combinations before my bandmates arrived. I really like the different voicings you get from this cab before touching anything on your amp or bass. Both mids and highs switches down gives a nice, kind of old-school mellower tone. Both switches up is more at the gnarly/hi-fi end of the spectrum. What I ended up settling on yesterday was the mids switch up, and the highs switch down - thought it paired perfectly well with the tone of my passive p-type bass and the music my band plays.
I played around with the ports, too. It is quite impressive how much this small cab fills the room with all ports open! After trying a few things I prefered plugging two ports (in a diagonal, as recommended by Duke) for this particular room. Volume-wise, my amp was at 50% overall and I was plenty loud enough within a loud band. Similar results that I obtained previously with a borrowed Hathor 1203, but with noticeable extra low-end, if my memory is right.
Quite enjoyed the single trip load-in/out, too. Bass on my back, gig bag in one hand (amp head, pedalboard, cables) and cab in the other. I have a Tuki padded cover on the way and when I get it, I'll be all set.
Yay! I received my Changeling 112T Wednesday. Used it for a rehearsal with the band last night, and will bring it out tomorrow night for a gig, perfect timing!
Big, big thanks to @DukeLeJeune for following up with FedEx through the whole process to ensure I got it in time - if it weren't for his intervention I would've gotten it later. Many others would have just said "Hey, it's shipped - I did my job and it's out of my hands now." But not Duke. Buying something has never been such a pleasant process - I can't stress this point enough.
I'm real happy with the Quilter / Changeling combo. Rehearsal was 3 hours yesterday and I showed up early to try out different combinations before my bandmates arrived. I really like the different voicings you get from this cab before touching anything on your amp or bass. Both mids and highs switches down gives a nice, kind of old-school mellower tone. Both switches up is more at the gnarly/hi-fi end of the spectrum. What I ended up settling on yesterday was the mids switch up, and the highs switch down - thought it paired perfectly well with the tone of my passive p-type bass and the music my band plays.
I played around with the ports, too. It is quite impressive how much this small cab fills the room with all ports open! After trying a few things I prefered plugging two ports (in a diagonal, as recommended by Duke) for this particular room. Volume-wise, my amp was at 50% overall and I was plenty loud enough within a loud band. Similar results that I obtained previously with a borrowed Hathor 1203, but with noticeable extra low-end, if my memory is right.
Quite enjoyed the single trip load-in/out, too. Bass on my back, gig bag in one hand (amp head, pedalboard, cables) and cab in the other. I have a Tuki padded cover on the way and when I get it, I'll be all set.
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One tip about the Quilter/Changeling 112T combo....if you put the back feet of the Quilter over the slots for the rear mid, the front feet will hang over into the recess for the handle...so you can press the rear feet down in the slots and the front feet grab onto the walls of the recess and it sorta 'docks' to the cabinet. You can lift it right out, but it will never slide off of be pulled off by a cable once 'docked'!
This being ‘docked’ is similar to my ‘discovery’
Question for other Changeling owners: How dramatic (or subtle) is the effect of the middle switch (attenuating the rear-firing mid) ? I couldn't really tell the difference yesterday. Next time I'll ask a bandmate to A/B the switch for me while I'm playing.
I've used the rear firing option on small gigs, tight stage, like instrumental cocktail jazz. The guys said they could hear me much better. For louder pop rock dance type stuff the only times I've used it was when the drummer had to set up behind me because of weird stage real estate. It's been helpful and it's nice to have the option. Can't really speak to subtle or dramatic, only that I use the option so people on the bandstand hear me better. It works well for that purpose.
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I think switch use is more about your band's needs. Where I stand, slightly in front of the cab I'm already getting what I need from the front speaker and ports/slots. If I were to move to the side or back of the cab, I suspect the difference in switch position would be more noticeable.
IMO/IME that rear set of ports and driver is more for the band, and particularly the drummer. So I typically leave mine set on full (not -7dB) unless someone complains...which has never happened. All the drummers I've played with, especially those who also sing, really like getting a more full range bass sound.
Hi everyone,
I'm new in this forum and on talkbass and I would like to thank everyone for the excellent information you provide here. A year ago I started with the search for a new cab and amp for my basses and my keyboards. I studied almost every post here and I was impressed by the professional information I got. As amp I choosed the Acoustic Image Clarus, because of two channels, good compatibility with acoustic basses and other instruments. Finally I asked Duke, what he thinks about my needs. He recommanded his Thunderchild 112 AF initially and during the discussion his keys friendly version with the upfiring horn. Now I got it. And I'm absolutely impressed: My Wurli sounds better than ever before (throug a Blues Junior) with full barky lows, strong mids and clear and mellow hights and my CP 70 sounds like a piano. It seems to me, that the upfiring horn adds a bit of clarity and a mellow shimmer. Also with my basses, the upper mids and the hights have a bit more clarity and a shimmer I woudn't miss.
Now a have to test the setting in various environments. But I'm absolutely happy with it.
So again thank you all for the information and especially Duke for his outstanding work. It was a pleasure to discuss with him and its an ongoing pleasure to make music with his cab.
I'm new in this forum and on talkbass and I would like to thank everyone for the excellent information you provide here. A year ago I started with the search for a new cab and amp for my basses and my keyboards. I studied almost every post here and I was impressed by the professional information I got. As amp I choosed the Acoustic Image Clarus, because of two channels, good compatibility with acoustic basses and other instruments. Finally I asked Duke, what he thinks about my needs. He recommanded his Thunderchild 112 AF initially and during the discussion his keys friendly version with the upfiring horn. Now I got it. And I'm absolutely impressed: My Wurli sounds better than ever before (throug a Blues Junior) with full barky lows, strong mids and clear and mellow hights and my CP 70 sounds like a piano. It seems to me, that the upfiring horn adds a bit of clarity and a mellow shimmer. Also with my basses, the upper mids and the hights have a bit more clarity and a shimmer I woudn't miss.
Now a have to test the setting in various environments. But I'm absolutely happy with it.
So again thank you all for the information and especially Duke for his outstanding work. It was a pleasure to discuss with him and its an ongoing pleasure to make music with his cab.
Woohoo! Custom Audiokinesis cab ordered!
4 ohms
15" woofer (same one that's in the current TC15)
3 pluggable ports
0 mids
0 tweeters
same small footprint as my Hathor 1544
My head is 2 ohm capable, but I can also get a micro sometime and use it with one cab or the other. I didn't even ask @DukeLeJeune how long it will take, but I am psyched!
4 ohms
15" woofer (same one that's in the current TC15)
3 pluggable ports
0 mids
0 tweeters
same small footprint as my Hathor 1544
My head is 2 ohm capable, but I can also get a micro sometime and use it with one cab or the other. I didn't even ask @DukeLeJeune how long it will take, but I am psyched!
Sounds like a fun cab! Any idea what the overall size will be?
Yeah, I'm someone that virtually always turns off tweeters. It'll be about 13" deep x 18" wide x 25" tall. Keeping it simple.
