Thanks for the suggestion. It really is a great sounding stack and very lightweight!
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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...
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Thanks for the suggestion. It really is a great sounding stack and very lightweight!
Old school user of a v.1 TC115, and a Hathor 1533. Have never needed to pair them, and they each rule - My migration from 12" is pretty well complete.
I was the one who ended up with Shrigg's 1203, and he was nice enough to bring his 1505 out to one of my shows to try both cabs. I definitely could hear better due to the 1203 being higher and closer to my ear and felt like there was more presence onstage, but there were a few musicians out in the crowd that night that agreed that there was little difference in the house between having both cabs engaged or just the 1505.
I did eventually end up getting a second 1203, which definitely added a lot of presence and extra oomph to the single cab.
OK -- that makes sense.
My experience has been that a single 1203T on the floor is OK on stage. In the audience, people can hear it just fine (sometimes a little too fine!). Although a sound guy(s) runs me through the FOH, he rarely ever boosts the slider at all since the cab carries the low end. What he doesn't like is having essentially zero control over the bass since very little-to-none of the bass goes through the house. And since very little of the bass goes through the house, a floor monitor in front of me is basically useless in terms of hearing the bass. To further complicate matters, we use IEM's at many of our gigs along with our cabs. Dialing in the mix in your ears as well as hearing the bass clearly enough to feel the groove can be a challenge.
The challenge for me is hearing the bass on stage (I'm 6'3"). I'm starting to elevate the the 1203T as high as possible (like you) so that I can hear myself better. That certainly helps.
That's why I'm thinking a 2nd cab (either stacked or at the opposite side of the stage facing me) will definitely add more presence on stage (which is your experience). I'll be trying this out in the coming weeks.
I've even had one sound guy suggest putting the H1203 cab 10-feet in front of me facing me so that it functions like a monitor. Seems like that would also work just fine. Haven't tried that out yet.
My main observation was that the 1505 was substantially louder than the 1203 so that even adding the 1203 did little to increase overall volume or definition. However I will say that two 1203's is a huge improvement over the already-great single 1203, creating a hard-hitting yet still very small killer rig! I've also compared two 1203's to the 1505 head to head and they are very similar, both in volume and definition. The 1203's arguably would win on definition because the 3" goes higher but I couldn't hear a tremendous difference with electric bass. The 1203's may hit just a smidge harder (with the same power), just being multiple drivers vs. a single driver and having more 20% cone area. My final analysis was that the 1505 was (and still is) the perfect single cab solution for use with a good class D (I use the TH500).
Sure, it's 4 ohms for the H1506 and 8 ohms for the H1203, which I believe is 2.67 ohms. I run it with a Mesa Subway D800+. Great pairing and experimenting with port plugs can really get it where you want it.
And if I were to be honest, I could probably use the H1506 for most gigs on it's own. I felt I needed a second cab for larger/outdoor venues, but I can't say I've ever come close to maximizing the volume/power of the H1506. I was even thinking of parting with the H1203 as I hate having unused gear, but it looks so damn cool together!
Fixing a typo above. I use the H1506 for most gigs (not a "H1206").
agreed on two 1203s. killer rig, very thick even at low volume.
I keep wanting a second 1203 but cant really justify it at this point, I have a 1203 and a TC112 currently..
Those two would stack/pair very well, as extensively testified by @nostatic in this very thread. Have you tried them together?
Shrigg, I thought you were using a Kustom class D head?
@DennyOnBass, I tried to make a play on Shrigg’s H1203 but you two had obviously already worked out an even more “local” deal on it.
I ended up with a C1203, so pretty happy in the end anyway.
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+1 Any combination of two H1203's or Changeling 112T's just works amazingly well for me. Darned near perfect for my needs and preferences, in fact.
Yes, and it works great but you know, you always want what you dont have, versus what you do have, even when that works great
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Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
I wound up selling off all my Barefaced cabs and “all” I have left is a single port H1203, a tri-port H1203 and a C112T. I couldn’t be happier and have zero amp or cab gas for the first time in forever. (Well I would like to have a poke at @tombowlus ’ SW215 forYes, and it works great but you know, you always want what you dont have, versus what you do have, even when that works great
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So... what's might be better - H1203 stack, or an Aggy SL212? I'm raising funds for a lighter rig adn I think I have the amp portion sorted. Now I just need to figure out the cab(s).
I’ve evolved back to an Aguilar TH500 and am happier with its more baked-in tone compared with the KXB500’s neutral sound. I play with a fairly driven tone which is where the 1505 really shines.
Take a look at my profile and you’ll see the staggering number of rigs I’ve went through in my tone quest, it’s actually pretty entertaining!
@DennyOnBass, I tried to make a play on Shrigg’s H1203 but you two had obviously already worked out an even more “local” deal on it.
I ended up with a C1203, so pretty happy in the end anyway.[/QUOTE]
Well, he had offered to lend it to me a few times to check it out, as I had only recently moved into town and think I had mentioned that the Berg HT322 I had been gigging with for years wasn't all that conducive to playing in a resort town where you can't always load in right at the venue and parking close by isn't always an option. By then I was using in ears for a lot of shows and really didn't hear my rig all that much anyway, but when I finally had a non in ear gig to play I took him up on it.
Once I got it in my hands, I had no intention of giving it back.
Although it's a bit awkward, I can do a single carry of my Pbass, two Hathor 1203s, a pedalboard in a bag (Temple Solo 18), a separate bag with my Genz Shuttle 9.0 and cables, and an additional bag with a Hercules stand and a compact mic stand.
I ended up with a C1203, so pretty happy in the end anyway.[/QUOTE]
Well, he had offered to lend it to me a few times to check it out, as I had only recently moved into town and think I had mentioned that the Berg HT322 I had been gigging with for years wasn't all that conducive to playing in a resort town where you can't always load in right at the venue and parking close by isn't always an option. By then I was using in ears for a lot of shows and really didn't hear my rig all that much anyway, but when I finally had a non in ear gig to play I took him up on it.
Once I got it in my hands, I had no intention of giving it back.
Although it's a bit awkward, I can do a single carry of my Pbass, two Hathor 1203s, a pedalboard in a bag (Temple Solo 18), a separate bag with my Genz Shuttle 9.0 and cables, and an additional bag with a Hercules stand and a compact mic stand.
