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KJung calling it like it is! Awesome !
Markbass over a Shuttlemax 9.2?
I love my 9.2max! Thats EQ control!
Been very happy with my ShuttleMax 9.2 as well
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Been very happy with my ShuttleMax 9.2 as well
KJung calling it like it is! Awesome !
Markbass over a Shuttlemax 9.2?
I love my 9.2max! Thats EQ control!
I love the Shuttlemax 9.2, but didn't really need the power or all those extra knobs. When I got the Max 9.2 dialed in just like I like it, it sounding like the F500
So, given the size difference, and that I typically gig with a relatively small 4ohm cab that doesn't need any more than 400-500 watts, the F500 was the deal for me (been gigging an F1 and then F500 for years now). Rock solid, great sounding 'flat' out of the box, plenty of power for the gigs I do, and about the size of a paper back book.I purchased my Shuttle 9.2 specifically to use with the fEARFul 15.6 I purchased, but ended up not really digging that cab. So, out went the 15.6, and the need for the higher powered, EQ powerful Max head.
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I love the Shuttlemax 9.2, but didn't really need the power or all those extra knobs. When I got the Max 9.2 dialed in just like I like it, it sounding like the F500
I purchased my Shuttle 9.2 specifically to use with the fEARFul 15.6 I purchased, but ended up not really digging that cab. So, out went the 15.6, and the need for the higher powered, EQ powerful Max head.
Horses for courses! I personally love the 2 channels on the Max 9.2 as lots of my gigs are doubling gigs.
Again, I REALLY like the Max 9.2, and recommend it a lot. Fantastic head in every respect. It was just funny that when I got it dialed in exactly like I like it, it sounded just like my little F500. I guess we all have a 'tone in our head', and the F500 just delivers that for me perfectly. The FET channel of the Max 9.2 did also with some pretty significant EQ to soften the upper mids and expand the low end, but again, the size and plug and play tone of the F500 has been perfect for me for years now. Built like a tank also.
IMO, it is THE head for the fEARFul cabs.
Shame they discontinued it. Luckily, I have two
Mike Arnopol said:
which is/was my beef with the streamliner. when it came out, i took one look at it and asked why it only had one mid section. some people thought i was a jerk. i have the amp, but i really wish it had two bands of mids. the s-max is a lot more flexible . . . .
Yes, if you must use a particular amp, and if it does not provide adequate EQ control, it's useful to have an outbound EQ pedal like the Empress ParaEQ. Pretty much lets you use whatever amp is right for you irrespective of not having the bells and whistles.
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I give them a pass on the Streamliner. They were really trying to emulate an old school all tube amp, and I think the did it nicely. That tone section is quite different from the Shuttle tone section. It is extremely interactive, and if you get passed the idea that 'turning the knobs a lot is bad', you can control that head beautifully with the combination of the bass, semi-parametric mid and treble, and the ratio of gain and volume.
Just a different whole design goal. They have the 'modern voicing with more modern EQ' covered with the Max heads.
i like twiddling knobs (don't go there!). i still think they would've been better off with two mid controlsand i say this as a guy who sold a 70s v4-b recently and will sell his 70s bassman 100. the lack of flexibility in the mids makes them less useful to me. ymmv, etc.
+1 Again, that is why they have the Max 9.2 in the product line. Nice product line for a variety of players' needs and tastes. Impressive company.
KJung said:
i have the 12.0 and the streamliner because they do different things . . . i think i understand that. just wish the streamliner had more mid variation. it is an impressive company.
I thought the whole idea behind the Streamliner was streamlined controls - an amp for those who find too many choices daunting. Although, I get the point that steubig wishes they made an amp with the same tone goal as the Streamliner for those who like all the options. Maybe an Unstreamliner.
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Duke:
I had a little bit of time to play through the Hathor today (working on bustin' out issue #9, which is taking up most of my free time), and I definitely hear the one switch doing what you describe, above. Is the other switch doing more of the same, or is it turning the mids completely off? If it is, that woofer has some pretty high extension!
Very interesting, very cool, cab, so far...
I'm very excited to get to try out the 1512 at the Cinci GTG. I haven't got to try a cab with a crossed over guitar driver before! I'll call the guys at Chrome Dome and tell them that I'll need my 300 Pro before the 28th. I'll bring the BATT driven 850w rack too. I want to get mean with the 1512 and see how it performs. (Sorry Duke! 
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Chef said:
I can actually hear the full range of my bass tone past the two guitar players in rehearsal now.
It is comments like this that made me buy this speaker. What rig do you use RJM?
engedi1 said:
~ 6 string Alembic with Élan electronics through Mikes amp sounded articulate, clean without any " dirty" characteristics to the tone produced using fairly old strings, DR's I believe. Drivers never had any trouble keeping up with my low B. Furthermore the stacked 12s give this cabinet a very small footprint on the floor while improving height to the compression driver/waveguide. At 6'1" it is good to be able to clearly hear the highs and the mid punch. The small footprint if using the cabinet by itself is great where you're crammed for space on a stage. (Normally the dual woofers are offset I suppose in a number of cab configurations- for what it's worth)
~ Second bass @ home I reached for my Alembic Series four string, run through a Superfilter and a Eden WT550. The bass is custom with No Filters on board- all Filtering is done via the SF-2.... OK this bass NEVER sounded better. Again for what it's worth, this IS the perfect slap tone - best tone I've encountered using the Alembic through the TC212 for me anyway. The bass sound is as clear as I've heard with this bass, as it's designed for clarity in mind. Went through a few paces of filtration settings including setting for ultra lows. The TC put out the best/deepest lows I could throw at it and did not become muddy at all. Next I mixed Ultra lows with crisp highs and truly acquired a complete full range sound, all there ~ Lows, not boomy, Mid punch, and Highs With clarity, no harsh character and just terrific/seamless Blend with the frequencies below. Using DR Black Beauties (Coated) strings.
~Warwick with MEC pickups straight to the Eden. Again punchy mids, good lows and same highs. Again old strings.
~Peavey Cirrus: Very punchy through the Thunderchild, using DR Sunbeams. Actually this bass has an issue right now but still sounded sweet. I guess I could say the lows sound "round & yet warm" without any hint, that I can detect, of gritty texture - if that makes sense. That goes for all the basses. I wish my old jazz bass was in working condition as I'm sure it would sound warm, etc. with the TC.
Synopsis above recalling when I first brought the cabinet home.
Basically using the basses above from the EQ/preamp (SF-2) to a small footprint Mackie to the Eden WT550 then to the TC212. Note: I run the other panned channel/ buss from the Mackie to a 15/6 cabinet powered by a regular old power amp ~ post preamps if needed/wanted ~ I use that "channel" for just pure lows alone and regulate the volume related to the TC212!
Hope that helps. rjmsteel.
Remember Chef I am looking forward to your review and opinion on your Composite TC212 !
My mistake I was thinking you went with the Composite cab?Any opinion besides weight and pricing any tone differences between the two from info from Duke or Mike?
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