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Back on the MM issue

MM makes a great product and has QC measures in place to make sure that even their lower end models like the SUB satisfy customers. After all their name is on the bass.

That said for somewhere between the price your teacher wants and what these sell for new you can buy a USA made SUB (discontinued in 2006) and have a very high quality product made in the USA, effectively a no-frills USA 2B Stingray. That’s what I would do if I were in your shoes.
USA Subs sell for around 1100usd so not a real possibility, rather go for a Sterling in that case.

Will look into the Benton.

Also, I'm done working with my dad in this issues. He's clueless, demeaning and tbh, broke so it'd be unfair to ask him anything.
Saving up it is.


Did some quick maths and buyin a Sub here would be a bit less expensive than importing a Benton.
 
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So my bass teacher is selling his Sub in nearly mint condition at $394.7, they go new for 567.71 here.
But my dad, who holds the money is adamant in thinking an Aliexpress counterfeit would be just as good. I mean both are china made, right?.

How do I convince this ignorant fella :D
Tell him if a bear gets in the house he will have to beat it off with the Aliexpress. That might make him think twice
 
Buy the SUB, play for a lifetime.

Note I've bought ONE bass off aliexpress for 2 reasons: 1-cause buying the real deal would take a lifetime to find the cash & buy, 2- I was planning on modifying it regardless, & i've actually built a short scale neck for it (to match the original bass mine replicates) & it actually works.

Don't buy from aliexpress, you'll spend hours trying to find one acceptable, & into account all the upgrades you'd do spend to make it as playable for the same price you'd pay for this SUB your Teacher is selling.
 
Buy the SUB, play for a lifetime.

Note I've bought ONE bass off aliexpress for 2 reasons: 1-cause buying the real deal would take a lifetime to find the cash & buy, 2- I was planning on modifying it regardless, & i've actually built a short scale neck for it (to match the original bass mine replicates) & it actually works.

Don't buy from aliexpress, you'll spend hours trying to find one acceptable, & into account all the upgrades you'd do spend to make it as playable for the same price you'd pay for this SUB your Teacher is selling.
Yeah, as I said earlier I'd buy a Chickenbacker, Fodera or Wal knock off...maybe, but a readily available in your local store? not worth it

I will have to skip the Sub my teacher is selling because I'm out of funds, mine or thrown at me so case closed I guess, but learned a thing or two, or rather confirmed what I already knew. Thanks all.

You may close this if needed.
 
So my bass teacher is selling his Sub in nearly mint condition at $394.7, they go new for 567.71 here.
But my dad, who holds the money is adamant in thinking an Aliexpress counterfeit would be just as good. I mean both are china made, right?.

How do I convince this ignorant fella :D

$400 for a good bass is a cheap price my first real bass was $200 back about 1969 … that is over $1000 in today's money
 
You're much better off with a second-hand Squier Affinity than anything from Alliexpress - you'd be lucky to get something playable at all.

There are always basses for sale: If you don't have the money now, wait until you do.

What are you playing now? Do you need an immediate upgrade? Also, your profile signature shows 5 basses...if you still have them, obviously sell some to help finance this bass, if she's "the one".
 
Oh, I fully know that. And I fully know that the Sub 5 is a great bass in its range.

Problem is being broke :(

Ya … I've been there … I feel your pain …

Wait until you get older and have a nice collection of basses and then you have to sell the nicer expensive ones to pay for mortgage, and car payments and other family expenses …
 
You're much better off with a second-hand Squier Affinity than anything from Alliexpress - you'd be lucky to get something playable at all.

There are always basses for sale: If you don't have the money now, wait until you do.

What are you playing now? Do you need an immediate upgrade? Also, your profile signature shows 5 basses...if you still have them, obviously sell some to help finance this bass, if she's "the one".
Oh, I'm not parting with any of them, they all have their space.
I would part with the Cort but that would open such a can of worms that WW ....lost count, would explode.

Guessing I'll go with what was my plan A all the way, work my ass off... and get the real deals over time i.e an American Sting Ray, an American Jazz/P and perhaps a Spector Euro LX 5 and a Wal. God I love those basses
 
So my bass teacher is selling his Sub in nearly mint condition at $394.7, they go new for 567.71 here.
But my dad, who holds the money is adamant in thinking an Aliexpress counterfeit would be just as good. I mean both are china made, right?.

How do I convince this ignorant fella :D

Be an American. get a job,earn your own money and buy what you want.... Oh wait,.. we don’t do that anymore...
 
Here's one that I stumbled on the other day, from an old artist called John Ruskin, perhaps it applies here:

"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey."
 
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Here's one that I stumbled on the other day, from an old artist called John Ruskin, perhaps it applies here:

"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey."
We have an easier saying in Spanish "lo barato cuesta caro" (roughly what's cheap ends up being more expensive)
 
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USA Subs sell for around 1100usd so not a real possibility, rather go for a Sterling in that case.

Will look into the Benton.

Also, I'm done working with my dad in this issues. He's clueless, demeaning and tbh, broke so it'd be unfair to ask him anything.
Saving up it is.


Did some quick maths and buyin a Sub here would be a bit less expensive than importing a Benton.
Don’t forget the Sterling Ray 34.
You can get a nice used one for $400 and several new clearance ones are available for $600.
I sure wouldn’t mind this one.
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Buy it yourself and there's no problem. Tell him thanks for offering, but the Aliexpress bass is almost sure to be a disappointment.

On the other hand, Brian May (guitar player for Queen) and his dad built the guitar that he used through the entirety of his fabulous career, so never say never to an ambitious & intelligent man.
 
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