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Baer Amplification Megathread!

#621
Just got my ML-112 @ 6pm today...I'm really impressed with the build quality...it's OUTSTANDING!!! Everything is WAY above par. Just a little bummed that my GB SMax 9.2 can't sit on top of it if it sits horizontally...

Also amazed by the weight

The sound is something that was totally unexpected...NOTHING like my old SWR Goliath 410...and it will take some getting used to...but in an eager way!!!

There seems to be plenty of balance...all notes rang clearly without any harshness at all...never heard my B string sound do concise...

Will follow up the next few days with more info
 
#622
CTC564 said:
Just got my ML-112 @ 6pm today...I'm really impressed with the build quality...it's OUTSTANDING!!! Everything is WAY above par. Just a little bummed that my GB SMax 9.2 can't sit on top of it if it sits horizontally...

Also amazed by the weight

The sound is something that was totally unexpected...NOTHING like my old SWR Goliath 410...and it will take some getting used to...but in an eager way!!!

There seems to be plenty of balance...all notes rang clearly without any harshness at all...never heard my B string sound do concise...

Will follow up the next few days with more info
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Can the 9.2 sit either in front of or behind the handle. My GK fits there perfectly.
 
#626
CTC564 said:
Just got my ML-112 @ 6pm today...I'm really impressed with the build quality...it's OUTSTANDING!!! Everything is WAY above par. Just a little bummed that my GB SMax 9.2 can't sit on top of it if it sits horizontally...
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Can you sit the front of the amp right on the handle? That leaves the front feet of the amp floating off the cab, but I know a few guys who use the Shuttle 9.0 and 6.0 this way and really like the way the rubber handle tilts the amp up.
 
#627
I'll give it a try...I'm sure I'd appreciate it more if I only intended using one cab but I'm thinking I'll need another cab to match my drummer...

PS...I LOVE the handle and the caps you put on the screws that hold the grill on...NICE touch!!! IT REEKS OF CLASS :-)

Thanks so much for taking care of my order in so quickly...I'm very pleased with your service
 
#628
Neil said:
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Just a few days old!
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Whaddya think so far?

I think they are one of the nicest built cabs on the market. The sound is def atypical. Not what your used to hearing in a typical bass cab. Very linear, very musical, slightly aggressive, nice mid bump. I'm not used to a bass cab sounding quite like the Baer's. It takes a while to get used their sound, and figure out how to eq them. It's taken me a little bit to learn how to (properly) apply the eq sections on my Aguilar TH500 and EBS T90. I was on the fence between these cabs and the Aguilar SL112's when I bought my pair. The SL's would have been more compact, and about 10lbs lighter per cab. At the time (xmas), there were some good 15-20% off sale galore on Amazon, Perfect Bass, MF, GC, etc. I could have got the SL's for the same price as the Baers after the xmas discounts. Sometimes I wonder if I should have got the Aguilars instead. BUT....I know a single Aguilar SL112 can not do what one Baer ML112 can do!! Every time I play through my Baers, I am utterly amazed at how well one cab can keep up with what I do.....and a pair, fuggedaboutit!! These cabs are truly super 12's in every aspect. So even though the Baers are a little heavier and bulkier than the Aguilar SL's, I think (in the end); they were the better choice. I think if I had gotten the Aggies, I would be toting a pair more often than not. With the Baers, I am toting one cab most of the time. I only (rarely) bring two. And when I do, it's just for ***** and giggles. When I do bring two, deep down I know all I needed was one. Again, with the Aggies; I prob would need both cabs in most scenarios to keep up. Welcome to the club!
 
#629
CTC564 said:
I'll give it a try...I'm sure I'd appreciate it more if I only intended using one cab but I'm thinking I'll need another cab to match my drummer...

PS...I LOVE the handle and the caps you put on the screws that hold the grill on...NICE touch!!! IT REEKS OF CLASS :-)

Thanks so much for taking care of my order in so quickly...I'm very pleased with your service
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When I use mine I stack one horizontal and the other vertical (if using my micro amp).....kinda like an upside down T. This way the amp sits on top of the vertical cab with no interference from the handle. Forget all the stuff about "the proper" was to stack cabs....is the TB police gonna come to your gig and right you a ticket because you used two cabs and didn't stack them both in a vertical fashion. The upside down T config sounds good and looks good. If I am using only one cab with my micro, I obviously stack the lone-cab vertically. Again, it offers no interference with the handle and gives me as much height as needed. When using the tube amp, the cabs are stacked horizontally, either with one cab or both cabs. This is mainly due to the width of the amp. The amp is too wide to use the cabs vertically. FWIW, I had to change out the rubber feet on my tube amp to clear the handle. 3/4 feet are need to clear handle. 1 Set of 4 Rubber Feet 1 1/2" X 3/4" W/Screws | eBay. $5.50 shipped, brand new. I bought mine from this guy. The pics make it look like the feet are used or something. Not the best pics. But rest assured they are new ones.

PS....the handle is waaaayy classy.
 
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#630
g4string said:
When I use mine I stack one horizontal and the other vertical (if using my micro amp).....kinda like an upside down T. This way the amp sits on top of the vertical cab with no interference from the handle. Forget all the stuff about "the proper" was to stack cabs....is the TB police gonna come to your gig and right you a ticket because you used two cabs and didn't stack them both in a vertical fashion. The upside down T config sounds good and looks good. If I am using only one cab with my micro, I obviously stack the lone-cab vertically. Again, it offers no interference with the handle and gives me as much height as needed. When using the tube amp, the cabs are stacked horizontally, either with one cab or both cabs. This is mainly due to the width of the amp. The amp is too wide to use the cabs vertically. FWIW, I had to change out the rubber feet on my tube amp to clear the handle. 3/4 feet are need to clear handle. 1 Set of 4 Rubber Feet 1 1/2" X 3/4" W/Screws | eBay. $5.50 shipped, brand new. I bought mine from this guy. The pics make it look like the feet are used or something. Not the best pics. But rest assured they are new ones.

PS....the handle is waaaayy classy.
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Thanks a lot!!! I see another cab AND those replacement feet in my future...great tips and VERY appreciated :-)
 
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#631
CTC564 said:
Thanks a lot!!! I see another cab AND those replacement feet in my future...great tips and VERY appreciated :-)
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One more thing....my Baer's are de-badged. So when I place my lone-cab vertically, I don't get the upside-down/sideways "B". I could see aesthetically why you would naturally default to placing your lone cab horizontally.....thus having the handle/amp dilemma. If you want to de-badge, they peel off fairly easy. Mine peeled off with no residue left behind. Although I think at the time, Roger was in the process of getting new sticky back adhesive for his badges as the original ones had issue with adhesion. Your might stick better than mine. Thus making de-badging more difficult. I feel bad de-badging them. But, the only thing I don't like about the Baer's is the logo. I don't find the logo attractive in any way shape or form. Sorry Roger.
 
#632
We are putting the Penn-Elcom 9105 rubber foot on the bottom of the Valkyrie. It's 7/8" tall x 1"dia. That keeps the bottom of the Valkyrie completely off the handle, as the bottom of the amp can get a might warm. If you guys are needing these, just let me know and we will order some more and make them available to you.
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#635
R Baer said:
We are putting the Penn-Elcom 9105 rubber foot on the bottom of the Valkyrie. It's 7/8" tall x 1"dia. That keeps the bottom of the Valkyrie completely off the handle, as the bottom of the amp can get a might warm. If you guys are needing these, just let me know and we will order some more and make them available to you.
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I may have to get some of those, as many of my heads' feet will not clear the top handle, which is another reason why I run my ML-112's in the vertical configuration most of the time.
 
#636
g4string said:
Whaddya think so far?

I think they are one of the nicest built cabs on the market. The sound is def atypical. Not what your used to hearing in a typical bass cab. Very linear, very musical, slightly aggressive, nice mid bump. I'm not used to a bass cab sounding quite like the Baer's. It takes a while to get used their sound, and figure out how to eq them. It's taken me a little bit to learn how to (properly) apply the eq sections on my Aguilar TH500 and EBS T90. I was on the fence between these cabs and the Aguilar SL112's when I bought my pair. The SL's would have been more compact, and about 10lbs lighter per cab. At the time (xmas), there were some good 15-20% off sale galore on Amazon, Perfect Bass, MF, GC, etc. I could have got the SL's for the same price as the Baers after the xmas discounts. Sometimes I wonder if I should have got the Aguilars instead. BUT....I know a single Aguilar SL112 can not do what one Baer ML112 can do!! Every time I play through my Baers, I am utterly amazed at how well one cab can keep up with what I do.....and a pair, fuggedaboutit!! These cabs are truly super 12's in every aspect. So even though the Baers are a little heavier and bulkier than the Aguilar SL's, I think (in the end); they were the better choice. I think if I had gotten the Aggies, I would be toting a pair more often than not. With the Baers, I am toting one cab most of the time. I only (rarely) bring two. And when I do, it's just for ***** and giggles. When I do bring two, deep down I know all I needed was one. Again, with the Aggies; I prob would need both cabs in most scenarios to keep up. Welcome to the club!
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I like the cabs a lot. It takes a little time to learn how to EQ them but they sound great. I can tell you that IMHO the SL112's sound a bit hollow to my ears. And they sound less immediate when you strike a note. So without a doubt I believe you made the right decision. But then again describing sound is like describing wine.
 
#637
tombowlus said:
And....? :D
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Well after playing the cabs for just a little bit I can tell you I love the clear, tight, focused low end. I also love how the cabs respond to EQing. Subtle changes make a big difference in the sound. I've also noticed that the 3 heads I've tried (M9, GK MB800 and Carvin B2000) all sound very good on the low end but sound dramatically different on the top end....some more harsh and some less harsh. Actually the M9 doesn't seem to be a good match at all. It takes a bit to figure out how to EQ them but Im not concerned at all because once I get them to a gig its a different story anyway. Also the build quality on the cabs is top shelf. I'll keep you posted after a gig but so far I really dig em.
 
#639
CTC564 said:
Is it ok to run my iPod through my ML-112 to help "break in" the speakers?

I don't want to assume anything...
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A lot of people use this method.

Roger could give you some guidance on how long and what kind of SPL would be best, though one person's room-filling level is another person's eardrum damage.

You're mostly gently loosening-up the suspension of the woofer, so there needs to be some low frequency content in the music you use.
 
#640
lo-freq said:
A lot of people use this method....You're mostly gently loosening-up the suspension of the woofer, so there needs to be some low frequency content in the music you use.
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Correct. An iPod, works just fine. The material that is used for the suspension on these drivers is quite stiff when new. You don't need to play really quietly, but keeping the volume moderate for a few hours (coffee house gig volume) will help the surround material loosen up and become more flexible. I certainly notice a difference in the low end between a brand new cab and one that has a few gigs under its belt.

g4string said:
If you want to de-badge, they peel off fairly easy. Mine peeled off with no residue left behind. Although I think at the time, Roger was in the process of getting new sticky back adhesive for his badges as the original ones had issue with adhesion...
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The latest runs of cabs have the logo badge put on with a polyurethane adhesive. I wouldn't recommend trying to peel one off.
 

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