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Baer Amplification Megathread!

#921
When I think of this cab, I ask myself "if there were something I could change, what would it be?".

Given the reasons I bought it .... nothing. I guess that has to do with expectations. I didn't expect it to do anything other than what it does, so I'm not wanting of anything from it.

Do I want something else from my sounds? Certainly. One cab can't be expected to cover everything. But this does what I was hoping it would do. Does it do everything perfectly? Of course not. But it does what I hoped it would do. It essentially fills the scoop in my case.
 
#922
heavytrash13 said:
thinking about ml 12 to drive with my Sound City pa 120 head,to use with upright and also for occasional use as a small vocal pa..im only playing small dive bars anymore and need a dual purpouse rig. --can i do this?
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I tried the ML112 with my upright. It was wonderful. Definitely better with some heads more than others, but still great with the upright. Best "bigger" box I've used with my upright.
 
#923
Just recently picked up a pair of Auralex MoPad isolation wedges to enable me to stack my two cabs horizontally rather than vertically...the wedges work great for clearing the top handle...and it "seems" as if I'm getting a nicer, "woody" bottom end with the cabs stacked horizontally...could this be accurate or just perceived?
 
#925
I'm not sure why you'd need or want auralex to separate the cabs from each other in a horizontal stack...?...but:

Stacking them horizontally seemed to net me a bit more low end.

I still preferred them horizontally for the better near field monitoring for me, and it didn't take but a nudge of bass boost on the Sadowsky to get back the lil bit of low end that vertical stacking took away.
 
#926
CTC564 said:
Just recently picked up a pair of Auralex MoPad isolation wedges to enable me to stack my two cabs horizontally rather than vertically...the wedges work great for clearing the top handle...and it "seems" as if I'm getting a nicer, "woody" bottom end with the cabs stacked horizontally...could this be accurate or just perceived?
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Probably a bit of both. Getting both cabs more closely coupled to the floor will slightly increase low end response, and having the cabs well below 'ear range' results in you hearing less of the directional mids in relation to the omnidirectional low end frequencies, which gives the impression of a 'smoother sound with more low end' when standing close to the cabs, even though that won't really transfer out to the room.
 
#928
Chef said:
I'm not sure why you'd need or want auralex to separate the cabs from each other in a horizontal stack...?...but:

Stacking them horizontally seemed to net me a bit more low end.

I still preferred them horizontally for the better near field monitoring for me, and it didn't take but a nudge of bass boost on the Sadowsky to get back the lil bit of low end that vertical stacking took away.
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Sorry Chef...the wedges are so my little SMax 9.2 can clear the top handle...
 
#931
KJung said:
Probably a bit of both. Getting both cabs more closely coupled to the floor will slightly increase low end response, and having the cabs well below 'ear range' results in you hearing less of the directional mids in relation to the omnidirectional low end frequencies, which gives the impression of a 'smoother sound with more low end' when standing close to the cabs, even though that won't really transfer out to the room.
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I was thinking along these same lines...so maybe it's "better" to stack them vertically?
 
#935
CTC564 said:
I was thinking along these same lines...so maybe it's "better" to stack them vertically?
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On paper, vertical is 'better' due to the whole 'comb filtering' thing. However, I've found that pretty minor with bass guitar backline.

And, even though you will get a better sense of what your rig sounds like out in the room, due to you hearing the upper midrange response better by having a driver close to your ear nearfield, one must remember that the upper level frequencies are the ones more absorbed by the room (people, drapes, carpet, etc.), so, kind of counterintuitively, having both cabs kind of down low might actually mirror what the audience hears better than EQing with the mid driver screaming right in your ear.

So, per Chef's post, do what sounds best to you, and be happy:)
 
#936
Just to make sure, all my comments are made assuming you are talking about putting both cabs on the floor next to one another versus stacking them one on top of the other.

If you are simply talking about the difference of stacking the two cabs in their individual vertical versus horizontal position, then the whole thing becomes a VERY minor issue, and really only impacts getting that top mid driver a touch closer to your ears.
 
#937
KJung said:
Just to make sure, all my comments are made assuming you are talking about putting both cabs on the floor next to one another versus stacking them one on top of the other.

If you are simply talking about the difference of stacking the two cabs in their individual vertical versus horizontal position, then the whole thing becomes a VERY minor issue, and really only impacts getting that top mid driver a touch closer to your ears.
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I think he's talking about the latter.

I am taking this to mean he is stacking them while the cabs are in the horizontal position, vs stacking them in the vertical position. In either case, they are stacked.

In reference to your last comment - that's exactly why I keep repeating myself about "perceptions" .. the way he's stacking them makes for such minor differences that he should just do it in whichever way he likes the best.

The dude is nearly seven feet tall, so if it sounds better to him stack one way vs the other ... go for it. The audience will hear very little difference due to the fact that they are both in a "stacked" configuration, whether they are standing vertically or standing horizontally. Since he is so close, he will hear a greater difference than the audience will.
 
#940
Flux Jetson said:
I think he's talking about the latter.

I am taking this to mean he is stacking them while the cabs are in the horizontal position, vs stacking them in the vertical position. In either case, they are stacked.

In reference to your last comment - that's exactly why I keep repeating myself about "perceptions" .. the way he's stacking them makes for such minor differences that he should just do it in whichever way he likes the best.
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