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BASS PLAYER MAG HAS FAILED ME!!
- Thread starter 5string5fingers
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Yeah the guy is 22 years old and probably plays in front of more people in one month than most of the idiots that post on here play in their whole career.Must suck to be him.
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And don't forget that he collecting a check. He also gets to add that to his professional resume so someone else can hire him.
Amen brother. You could all be in the truck leasing business like me. Believe me I would rather be playing bass for the Jonas Brothers than working my day job.
- Aug 16, 2003
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Funny to me how many posters on this thread are saying that they would"sell out" and play a gig like the Jonas bro gig;what lofty musical ideals are you selling out from your basement or garage? I have a friend who actually plays for Hannah Montana,I have another who plays for Ringling brothers circus,both of them make a good living playing those gigs and guess what? at the end of the day the way professional musicians make their living is to play gig's for money.
I understand for many playing music is their passion because it's mine too but you have to understand that not only does music come in many different styles but it also serves many different functions in everyday life for various people. For some people the Jonas brothers may be a bridge to a life long appreciation and, more importantly, support for music.
And for the record I would do the gig in a heart beat,doing gigs similar to these helped me buy my house so don't sleep
I understand for many playing music is their passion because it's mine too but you have to understand that not only does music come in many different styles but it also serves many different functions in everyday life for various people. For some people the Jonas brothers may be a bridge to a life long appreciation and, more importantly, support for music.
And for the record I would do the gig in a heart beat,doing gigs similar to these helped me buy my house so don't sleep
Good point. The "selling out" mindset is getting pretty prevalent, among us hobbyist's, who all seem to envision ourselves as being exalted artists.
I don't see many full-time working bassists worrying about selling out when a paying gig of almost any kind comes along.
it would be a safe bet to assume that most name acts of any stripe would have access to and use top shelf hired guns on tour,in the studio,or anywhere else.......to not do so would be unwise.......
I wouldn't consider playing for sell outs selling out (selling out to me is more like doing something cool, but then marketing every aspect of it to try and ring every little bit of money out of the idea while completely destroying the value or quality in the original idea, and don't forget to make sequels and spin-offs). This is just making a living doing what you like to do and probably being able to spend all the extra time and money on things that are worth something in a non-monetary sense. It's not like the bassist for jonas brothers is being exploited to little girls so that disney can make a bunch of money.
I apologize for the poorly organized/written post, but I was interrupted and lost my train of thought, and added things at random points.
I apologize for the poorly organized/written post, but I was interrupted and lost my train of thought, and added things at random points.
Brilliant move on BP's part. A little article about an obscure bass player for a top act (like it or not) got 132 responses on this website and over 4,500 peeks.
This is gravy for the magazine. Great move on their part. They probably inspired more discussion with that story than all their articles for the last two years combined! Brilliant.
This is gravy for the magazine. Great move on their part. They probably inspired more discussion with that story than all their articles for the last two years combined! Brilliant.
Basically there are two camps giving opinions here.
Camp One will play for anyone with money.
Camp Two seems to be hobby players or in "original" bands and play purely for enjoyment.
I belong to Camp Two(hobby player). I belong to this camp because I have artistic an philosophical objections to "bands" like the Jonas Brothers. IMO me these groups sell mediocrity and I hate mediocrity in all aspects of life. You can say "get off your high horse" all you want, but I take music seriously and my integrity, philosophical stance, and self image are not for sell.
With that being said, I can see who many WOULD take this gig and why they would not. Id tell them to keep looking, myself.
Camp One will play for anyone with money.
Camp Two seems to be hobby players or in "original" bands and play purely for enjoyment.
I belong to Camp Two(hobby player). I belong to this camp because I have artistic an philosophical objections to "bands" like the Jonas Brothers. IMO me these groups sell mediocrity and I hate mediocrity in all aspects of life. You can say "get off your high horse" all you want, but I take music seriously and my integrity, philosophical stance, and self image are not for sell.
With that being said, I can see who many WOULD take this gig and why they would not. Id tell them to keep looking, myself.
You do realize that The Jonas Brothers play with a full band behind them just like the Monkees right?
The guy is probably a promising session player.
The guy is probably a promising session player.
They do not sell mediocrity, you're wrong. It's music for kids. It's not mediocre. Is Mickey Mouse mediocre? Or The Flinstones?
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I'm not of either camp. I will not play with anyone with money. And it is a known fact(especially by those in the industry that I will only play with those that I choose to play).
And if you feel that some of us don't have musical integrity for possibly taking a gig with a band like the Jonas brothers,just take a listen to my music that's available all over the web.
I think we're forgetting that there is a thing called a "media campaign" and magazines like Bass Player are a willing accomplice. The article is NOT about this bass player at all, its just more advertising for the Jonas Brothers. Period. Its just another angle to a larger media plan.
Mickey Mouse and the Flintstones have some degree of originality. And theyre aimed at two very different age groups than the Jonas Brothers is, besides that it is apples and oranges.
Just because it is aimed at the quite young doesnt mean it is not mediocre. Why is it that kids are expected to listen to drivel instead of quality, influential, meaningful music, just because theyre young? Thats nonsense. Children like Bles Clues because you stuck it in front of them, thats all. If I stuck a skeleton in front of them they would love it too.
I think youve got me wrong here. Im not attacking anyone, Im just stating my belief about their music, what it represents, and that my sense of integrity would not allow me to play for them. My personal integrity, not musical alone. And besides that, my integrity should have no bearing on what you consider your musical or personal integrity.
It is a moral issue to me, I am morally apposed to promoting the spread of mediocrity, especially to the young. Morallity is VERY subjective.
I know youre talented, dont think Im trying to claim youre not or that you have no integrity. It just comes off that some people are for sell, but thats the thing with pro players. To you you ARENT for sell in the same way someone who is overly idealistic(me) would see it. Im not talking about anyone personally, it just seemes like two appropriate generalities for the views expressed in this thread.
