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Bass with a whammy bar?

Kahler makes a 5 string Hybrid. www.wammiworld.com has them for sale for @$200. The real pain is getting a qualified luthier to install it and set it up as it requires routing, as well as fill in, like on newer Ibanez with mono-rail individual bridges. I had mine done at www.thelowend.net in Nashville, TN. They were reasonable with the price and had it back to me in about 4 weeks. Good Luck.

I ordered mine from wammiworld and I just put my Warwick $$ 5-string in a local shop this morning for the install. Bronson Guitar Works in Scottsdale, Arizona quoted me $125-150 to install and will have it done middle of next week. :)

The unit I got is built on a 6-string base frame with 4 springs instead of 3. Wammi J. told me this is better because in the '80s, there were no downtuned, heavy string 5ers, so 3 springs were fine. But now, the extra mass and spring are needed to counter the tension of modern strings and tunings on 5-string basses and up. Fortunately, the MM pickups on the $$ are wide enough to look balanced with the extra-wide Kahler.

Can't wait til next week to play with my new toy!
 
So essentialy, get a khaler, set it up left handed, find some one reliable... What all goes in to actually installing the khaler?

They carve a huge hole in your bass- dont do it to a vintge bass unless it's already been modified (I did mine long before the internet and Gibson's were worth anything)

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A sloppy job here but still shows how much wood needs to be removed. Also if the person does not remove enough wood the trem's travel will be limited.
 
Here's Les Claypool making good use of the Kahler on his Medium scale Carl Thompson four string. The synch is going astray but nevermind that, listen to what he's doing before Buckethead's guitarsolo starts, bona fide dive bombs with no problems whatsoever.


"Tommy the cat" live Claypool once again makes good use of the Kahler in this rendition and during the "Awakening" solo.

He also has a second Thompson bass with a Kahler but with locking tuners to keep things in tune.
 
How's the warlock? I have heard that unless you get one of those $1k+ guitars/basses that B.C. Rich is horrible.

That one is a USA Custom (and a unique one, at that, I am told) and it has about every option available. I like it a lot, but to be honest, it's not a bass I would play on every tune at a gig. We cover a lot of ground, and for some of it, the Warlock just rules.

Tom.