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Be Honest: Would You Ever Sell-Out?

would you sell-out?

  • Money, fame, supermodels? **** yeah I would. sign me up

    Votes: 244 64.9%
  • No, my band would try and make it on our own. Never selling out

    Votes: 38 10.1%
  • LOL@artistic integrity.Only reason I'd wanna be a rockstar is for money and the sex

    Votes: 19 5.1%
  • Dont need models and limos; I'm happy with hookers and taxi cabs

    Votes: 20 5.3%
  • Yeah I would..but i'd probably get depressed and start a drug habit

    Votes: 55 14.6%

  • Total voters
    376
  • Poll closed .
I think the average musician has far more atrocious taste than the average 10-year-old. Kids that age aren't jaded yet, aren't trying to convince themselves that they're better than those "sellout" successful musicians, and aren't out to prove that they're smarter and more cultured than other kids who like other music. They still mostly want music to sound good and have lyrics about stuff that's interesting to them. Musicians, on the other hand...

Word.

Note that the stuff that 10-year-old kid likes is probably the most intensely crafted music there is. If it isn't extremely coherent and cohesive, it just won't fly. There's something to be said for that. Without ready accessibility, music can be a solitary exercise similar to masturbation.

On the other hand, music that aspires to be brainy and esoteric CAN'T appeal to everyone because it is often self-consciously disdainful of popular tastes. If it achieves any level of commercial success, it's a fluke and often becomes some 'serious' artist's albatross.

So there's your choice: do you want to make music for the general public who collectively has a lot of money, or do you want to make music for other musicians who collectively have relatively little money?

A successful song with crossover appeal can keep you working (and/or collecting residuals) for a lifetime. I'd make that bargain in a heartbeat, and jam with my buds on the side.

On my yacht.

If you're not trying to please a lot of people with your art, why not just stay home?
 
Let's say you were in an underground band that's being courted by a big corporate label. If you signed with them you'll be promised fame, fortune, and a fleet of supermodels. Instead of playing hole-in-the-wall clubs, you'll be playing stadiums. All you have to do is change your sound to more commercial viable pop music. Sign away your artistic integrity and all this could be yours..

would you sign?

Well I think it would be foolish to pass up an opportunity like that. And once your 15 mins is over you can go back to the hole in the walls and charge $1500 or $15 at the door because "hey you guys were big in the nineties".
 
i play bass/music to have fun and express myself.
there will always be a good group of people who will like what you do.
if you sellout, there goes your soul, and honestly, it won't be as much fun as it originally was when you were playing things you and your band members liked.

**** mainstream music (and rap, which I don't even consider music)....

Bommer.
 
Well, if I decided to stay "true" to the sound of the band, yet no one liked it, then I would be playing small bars, not getting paid while going to work some job that I hate with Bill Lumburg telling me what to do all day long. I think I can handle having a record label tell me what to do versus some jack @$$ in "upper management" at Innotec!
 
Sure. The whole romantic notion of the starving artist plying his or her craft, toiling away in obscurity is crap. Starving gets old very quickly. That said, I wouldn't play certain types of music (mainly because I hate them) just to make a buck. If it came to that, I'd get a day job and play music I like as a hobby.
 
Who says mainstream music = bad music?

A lot of the songs we (as in the members of TalkBass) are popular songs that made a lot of money. And we learn them for fun, or out of appreciation for the song. Now imagine playing fun, well crafted songs with large appeal, in front of thousands of fans, making thousands of dollars.

I say yes.
 
Yes. I can always record my non-commercial "artisitic"music at my home studio, which I can afford with all the money they are paying me, right?
+99999999

I have no problem with making music that makes me money. However, it doesn't mean that all I have is that. Billy Sheehan made his living with Mr. Big, Talas. DLR, Steve Vai, etc., and still plays with Niacin. Besides, that could build some connections for me to use for my Artsy-Fartsy prog-rock side project.
 
Who says mainstream music = bad music?

A lot of the songs we (as in the members of TalkBass) are popular songs that made a lot of money. And we learn them for fun, or out of appreciation for the song. Now imagine playing fun, well crafted songs with large appeal, in front of thousands of fans, making thousands of dollars.

I say yes.
As we have found, every generation feels superior to the next, and, often, their preceding generation. So everybody feels they should take stabs at new "Mainstream" music and talking about how it's not real music, they're just label machines, they're robots, just make money because they look good, destroy our craft, etc. And I'm sure the "Sell-Out" generation will have some problem with the next generation's music, and then they'll have a problem with the next, and on it will go until the human race is obliterated.
 
Really? So say if you were tapped to play the upcoming Miley Cirus tour and the gig paid 2k per night, you wouldn't do it?

125 tour dates in a year paying 2K per night.

You had to play the Cyrus card, didn't you ;)

Weeellll...since you put it that way, I'd definitely think about it and probably end up taking the gig. Although I'd sure as hell be networking to try to get a better gig, musically speaking, as soon as I could.
 
If you look at measurements of job crappiness like the poor job stability, the weird hours, all the travel required, the investment you have to make in equipment etc. then playing music is a crappy job, even if it's music you like.