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Behringer XR18 X-Air

I've now done a number of gigs with the aforementioned XR-18 + 2-in-1 laptop/tablet rig and discrete router. No major hiccups so far.

The most difficult test was a 5 piece band gig with full PA+subs, 2 monitor mixes, 4 vocals, 2 gtr, keyboards, bass, 4pc. drums. The FOH speakers were some active JBL EON 15" old school cabinets, along with a pair of active subwoofers, of which I don't recall the manufacturer. This FOH gear is owned by a very talented fellow musician. I was running the hard-wired network connected laptop along with an iPad2 for wireless (audience) mixing by a sound guy I know who is very familiar with the remote control tablet apps for Soundcraft, Midas, and Mackie, but less so with the Behringer stuff. He had things up and running smoothly with relative ease. With some tweaking to the iPad app fader layout, I'm sure this could have been made much easier.

Other than my laptop trying to do system/program updates during the last set (I'll have to shut down automated updates! DOH!), and a couple of brief instances where the ipad lost connectivity, generally things ran without issue, and sounded really good. In fact, the guy who owns the FOH speakers/subs commented a few times that he'd never heard his system sound so good, loud, clear, and full. He has always been 100% using analog mixers, which is fine, but I think he's starting to see the light now as to sonic benefits of having all of that digital processing available in such a small package.

As it stands right now, my Mackie 1608 is fully on the back burner. I'll be using the XR-18 100% of the time and unless there is a major catastrophe or incident that leaves me lacking confidence in the XR-18. I'm going to give it a few months of gigging, and we'll see.
 
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Like my XR12 so much, (used as a bass preamp, among other duties), I ordered an XR18 on Friday the 13th, (my lucky day).
It should be here Wednesday. I'll give it some burn-in/set-up time, then use it at a choral concert a friend of mine puts on this Friday.
I love the pro-level configure-ability at an amateur-level investment... and the sound- it would be very good at twice the price, but it is excellent for the stupid money these cost.
 
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Like my XR12 so much, (used as a bass preamp, among other duties), I ordered an XR18 on Friday the 13th, (my lucky day).
It should be here Wednesday. I'll give it some burn-in/set-up time, then use it at a choral concert a friend of mine puts on this Friday.
I love the pro-level configure-ability at an amateur-level investment... and the sound- it would be very good at twice the price, but it is excellent for the stupid money these cost.

I know I'm just dreaming, but as a bassist, how cool would it be for Behringer to come up with a 4 switch MIDI pedal that came pre-configured to mute/unmute the 4 FX bus returns on their XR series boards? Or that allowed for recall of 4 snapshots via MIDI? I know I could find a $250 micro MIDI switch controller and do all of the home brew programming myself, but IMHO, an inexpensive, simple, pre-configured MIDI pedal like this would be HUGE for those who do sound on stage AND those of us who would use the XR as a bass preamp/FX unit.

Again, just dreaming.
 
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I know I'm just dreaming, but as a bassist, how cool would it be for Behringer to come up with a 4 switch MIDI pedal that came pre-configured to turn mute/unmute the 4 FX bus returns on their XR series boards? Or that allowed for recall of 4 snapshots via MIDI? I know I could find a $250 micro MIDI switch controller and do all of the home brew programming myself, but IMHO, an inexpensive, simple, pre-configured MIDI pedal like this would be HUGE for those who do sound on stage AND those of us who would use the XR as a bass preamp/FX unit.

Again, just dreaming.

I keep my tablet on a music stand, and have the effects sends page up so that I can reach over and adjust the effect levels, but I can see that having a 4 button, or even a step-through 2 button switch would be a very powerful thing.
 
IK Multimedia | iRig BlueBoard - Bluetooth MIDI pedalboard
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It can be programmed to send any 4 midi sequences you want.
 
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I know I'm just dreaming, but as a bassist, how cool would it be for Behringer to come up with a 4 switch MIDI pedal that came pre-configured to mute/unmute the 4 FX bus returns on their XR series boards? Or that allowed for recall of 4 snapshots via MIDI? I know I could find a $250 micro MIDI switch controller and do all of the home brew programming myself, but IMHO, an inexpensive, simple, pre-configured MIDI pedal like this would be HUGE for those who do sound on stage AND those of us who would use the XR as a bass preamp/FX unit.
Again, just dreaming.
I'm actually working on one for my XR12 based hybrid Bassrig/PA. Problem is it would be at least $100 to sell, even though based on a $3.25 Arduino board :( . My latest thinking is to just have it control the mute groups for more versatility? Maybe I should do a kickstarter LOL.
 
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I believe you use ipad, Mac, or android applications to program the pedal to control the desired app/software, rather than directly to the X-Air hardware box.
You can program it all you want but it will only control apps that have MIDI via Bluetooth support. AFAIK none of the Behringer X-Air apps do. Dunno if there is some sort of Bluetooth to wired MIDI converter available - maybe an app you could run on a Laptop? But that's a lot of crap to hook up :( .
 
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You can program it all you want but it will only control apps that have MIDI via Bluetooth support.

Ahh. Thanks for clarifying.

There are a few small midi pedals out there. Midibuddy comes to mind

Yeah, I know. I'm just getting lazy, and not interested in tracking down all the MIDI protocol to get this sussed out. In the end, I may have no choice, though, if I want pedal control of the XR-18. Oh well. If anyone is currently doing this, I'd love to get more insight.
 
I think I am going to have to cave in and get one of these. Was going to Grab an A & H MixWiz cheap, but there are too many reasons to spend the extra coin.

Did some digging today regarding Stereo IEM mixes and how that works, and found this article: Invalid Link Removed which talks about linking buses for stereo output.

Sorry if it has been mentioned already in this thread - but how do you pan within a stereo linked Bus setup?
 

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