I did my first gig with my xr18. We had some hiccups but more from my lack of experience than anything. My biggest problem was I forgot my tablet when we went to set up so I didn’t get a sound check or a chance to workout the bugs. I think I’m going to get a inexpensive tablet and leave it with myA so that never happens again.
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Behringer XR18 X-Air
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We use a program called Cantabile to play backing tracks. The PC connects to the X-Air via the USB connection, and each backing track is configured with 4 channels (click, keys, horns, vocals). If your drummer's PC can be connected via USB and the software supports ASIO audio, you could do the same thing.
If you are running your DAW with only the EZ Drummer and a low buffer you should be OK to do so without latency.
You'll have to rout the EZ Drummer to individual tracks in your DAW and then send those tracks out to the XR 18 inputs. Then you can mix them on a stereo bus and should be good to go. It'll take time to set it up, but worth a try.
IS he triggering an acoustic kit?
FYI - i just posted an X32 Rack and X-touch in the classifieds
I've been stalking this forum as well as the X Air general discussion on the Behringer site for the past month or two. I'm in two different bands. One is a 4 piece cover band which plays primarily funk covers with some originals. The group has been around for about 4 or 5 years, and I'm a somewhat recent addition. The other group is more of a funk/GB band that's just starting to learn enough material to get off the ground. A lot of the members of both groups, despite all being younger than me (38) are still somewhat out of touch with the modern world. Specifically in regards to how the modern age consumes music and also how promoters and club/bar owners check out potential new acts for their establishments. I have to beg them to not post crappy audio taken from cell phone videos to social media as I feel content like that does more harm than good, regardless of the talent and performance. Then they propose to pay a studio for time and cut a CD. We're in the age of digital tech and hi fidelity and I feel that such methods have already gone the way of the dodo.
I haven't run sound in over 10 years since my old 8 piece horn based funk band while using a Mackie analog board and a heavy 90's Peavey Main and monitor system. I've been messing around with Reaper for about 6 months and have gotten reasonably comfortable with it. I was looking for a solution where we can record multitrack into Reaper while performing live and have separate feeds for the DAW and FOH. Also, budget is very limited. Fortunately, the drummer which happens to be in both bands with me has a very capable QSC based system with quality mains, monitors and subs. We already have quality mics and DI boxes for everything required.
I'm trying to cover the other equipment myself for right around $1000 or so. I've decided on the Behringer X Air 18 for about $450, a refurbished laptop on New Egg for a little over $200 running an i5, 8GB of RAM and an adequate hard drive running Reaper and X Air Edit, a reasonable dual band external router, and enough cables to link everything together. I'm going to purchase a couple of cheap Amazon Fire Tablets for being able to make adjustments for FOH while the laptop, router and X Air will be on stage for the most part. I plan to hard wire together for reliability, ideally running on the 5GHz spectrum instead of the crowded 2.4GHz for the monitor mixes. I plan on also purchasing a USB dual band WLAN adapter as well in addition to long ethernet cables in case the laptop needs to be off of the stage and for redundancy for FOH mixing if the cheap tablets prove unreliable. Most members have modern enough smartphones/tablets to be able to handle everyone's own individual monitor mixes and on the preferred spectrum. I would like to go in ear eventually, but the finances will take some time. So floor wedges for now.
Combined, the bands have enough quality cameras, stands, mounts, etc to get some quality video footage from various angles. My home PC has enough horsepower to do all the heavy lifting for all of the video and audio editing. I consider myself OKAY with audio, and I'm very much a rookie when it comes to the video side of things. I hope to get to the point where I'm posting regular, consistent, high quality content to social media in order to grow the bands reach and book some higher paying gigs with greater frequency in addition to grow our following. I realize that I'm undertaking quite an adventure in addition to my regular 9-5 job. I expect tech issues, problems, stumbling blocks, failures, etc. I realize this will take me a long time to achieve even mediocre results by my standards.
What a time we live in where I can potentially do all of this practically on my own, for such little money, with every member having digital control of their own monitor mix while capturing quality video and audio. If I proposed to myself to attempt this only 10 years ago, I would have asked myself where I was going to come up with an unobtainable amount of money for someone like me.
I'm somewhat surprised that I don't see many local groups taking this avenue. I still see local acts having CD release parties while playing for 30 people. I don't consider myself a trend setter by any means, but it seems like 95% percent of music consumed by people is through video based social media and I'm shocked at the amount of people still clutching to the past. I look forward to this new adventure in music.
Off I go to watch tutorial videos and stalk the forums!
I haven't run sound in over 10 years since my old 8 piece horn based funk band while using a Mackie analog board and a heavy 90's Peavey Main and monitor system. I've been messing around with Reaper for about 6 months and have gotten reasonably comfortable with it. I was looking for a solution where we can record multitrack into Reaper while performing live and have separate feeds for the DAW and FOH. Also, budget is very limited. Fortunately, the drummer which happens to be in both bands with me has a very capable QSC based system with quality mains, monitors and subs. We already have quality mics and DI boxes for everything required.
I'm trying to cover the other equipment myself for right around $1000 or so. I've decided on the Behringer X Air 18 for about $450, a refurbished laptop on New Egg for a little over $200 running an i5, 8GB of RAM and an adequate hard drive running Reaper and X Air Edit, a reasonable dual band external router, and enough cables to link everything together. I'm going to purchase a couple of cheap Amazon Fire Tablets for being able to make adjustments for FOH while the laptop, router and X Air will be on stage for the most part. I plan to hard wire together for reliability, ideally running on the 5GHz spectrum instead of the crowded 2.4GHz for the monitor mixes. I plan on also purchasing a USB dual band WLAN adapter as well in addition to long ethernet cables in case the laptop needs to be off of the stage and for redundancy for FOH mixing if the cheap tablets prove unreliable. Most members have modern enough smartphones/tablets to be able to handle everyone's own individual monitor mixes and on the preferred spectrum. I would like to go in ear eventually, but the finances will take some time. So floor wedges for now.
Combined, the bands have enough quality cameras, stands, mounts, etc to get some quality video footage from various angles. My home PC has enough horsepower to do all the heavy lifting for all of the video and audio editing. I consider myself OKAY with audio, and I'm very much a rookie when it comes to the video side of things. I hope to get to the point where I'm posting regular, consistent, high quality content to social media in order to grow the bands reach and book some higher paying gigs with greater frequency in addition to grow our following. I realize that I'm undertaking quite an adventure in addition to my regular 9-5 job. I expect tech issues, problems, stumbling blocks, failures, etc. I realize this will take me a long time to achieve even mediocre results by my standards.
What a time we live in where I can potentially do all of this practically on my own, for such little money, with every member having digital control of their own monitor mix while capturing quality video and audio. If I proposed to myself to attempt this only 10 years ago, I would have asked myself where I was going to come up with an unobtainable amount of money for someone like me.
I'm somewhat surprised that I don't see many local groups taking this avenue. I still see local acts having CD release parties while playing for 30 people. I don't consider myself a trend setter by any means, but it seems like 95% percent of music consumed by people is through video based social media and I'm shocked at the amount of people still clutching to the past. I look forward to this new adventure in music.
Off I go to watch tutorial videos and stalk the forums!
s0c9
Supporting Member
My "new" country band is going to be using the Midas equivalent of the XR18 - the MR18, as my former BL sold his X32R.
I still plan on going IEM, and the drummer will be using one of my P16M's and IEM's. We both do backing vox.
Lead vox, pedal steel (also 2nd guitar) and lead guitar will be using good 'ole wedges.
Anyone with any MR18 experience ??
I still plan on going IEM, and the drummer will be using one of my P16M's and IEM's. We both do backing vox.
Lead vox, pedal steel (also 2nd guitar) and lead guitar will be using good 'ole wedges.
Anyone with any MR18 experience ??
s0c9
Supporting Member
My last band (split last Nov) has done that for close to 4 years. ALL Senn G3 wireless IEM's (except for lead guitar), digital console (X32R), all wireless in (Senn, L6).
Same setup in EVERY venue.. same monitor mix. 16-ch snake splitter in back of the rack to feed FOH, or split FOH snake into ours. Either way.. simple setup, and FOH doesn't need to worry about monitors.
more details in this post
Pros and cons of iem
I will be honest that I’ve got some pretty decent audio video from a GoPro of our gigs and not at all embarrassed to share it on YouTube. Syncing multiple cameras for video editing with the audio track will likely be your biggest challenge.
I've done audio and video syncing with Reaper and other programs in the past. I'm familiar with the process. A simple video and audio physical clap on camera and mics make audio syncing a breeze that takes me a few seconds. The Go Pro's do okay for audio, but I truly want multitrack editing capabilities so I can add compression, limiting, reverb, EQ and general sound cleaning for post processing. I want as high of fidelity on the audio as I'm able to achieve.
Funny, not much to add, except to assuage your feelings of loneliness--cause I could've wrote most of this post myself. Not only your line of reasoning, but an eerily similar path with regards to equipment (XR18, laptop (built-in dual-band WiFi and touch screen) w/ Reaper and X-Air Edit , external router, and a couple Amazon HD8 tablets). About the biggest difference I can see is that I went with EV's instead of QSC...
Needless to say, I think you are on the right path...
Hard wired iems are becoming a really solid affordable option now. You can get a behringer headphone amp some headphone extension cable and behringer body packs with a set of kz iems for each member dirt cheap
I got the MR18 in November. I've had zero complaints, except struggling a bit to understand how to configure the effect sends. But I haven't really tried, so that's not an indication of if it's really particularly difficult.
It's hard for me to compare with the XR18, but I will say that I find it exceptionally quiet, and I like the higher quality XLR connectors.
s0c9
Supporting Member
I've downloaded the iOS/Andy versions of the software, and played with it some.
No channel or effects libraries included as far as I can tell.
Wonder if the X32's are compatible??
Trigger pulled! X Air X18, Windows 10 refurbished laptop to run Reaper with 256 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, i5, dual band router, 8 inch Amazon Fire Tablet, cables for everything, and a Behringer Eurolive BD115 as a personal monitor and practice amp!
I can't wait to get this tech in hand to start learning the basics. The band has 5 shows in August, three of which we are running our own sound. I plan running the new setup at rehearsals as much as possible before taking it live. I plan on bringing a back up analog board as well just in case.
I thought after acquiring a new bass and rig over the past couple years, I would be GAS free. Who was I kidding? I'm so pumped!
I can't wait to get this tech in hand to start learning the basics. The band has 5 shows in August, three of which we are running our own sound. I plan running the new setup at rehearsals as much as possible before taking it live. I plan on bringing a back up analog board as well just in case.
I thought after acquiring a new bass and rig over the past couple years, I would be GAS free. Who was I kidding? I'm so pumped!
Damn! You went all in. Good for you. Not sure what you're coming from but it took me a while before I was pretty much plug and play. Not a painless journey but in the end it prevailed. So much so that I bought a second one as a backup unit. I have my kinks pretty much sorted and self-sound jobs are the norm. Good luck and ask questions. The tech we have at out disposal at their prices is just amazing.
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I've been obsessively watching tutorials and reading forums. I've been playing around with X Air Edit on my PC, Android phone and Android tablet in offline mode, creating scenes, etc. I still have a lot to learn, but I hope to have the basics down by the end of the week. And I'll be sure to pester you fine folks with all kinds of questions and common practices.
I've been obsessively watching tutorials and reading forums. I've been playing around with X Air Edit on my PC, Android phone and Android tablet in offline mode, creating scenes, etc. I still have a lot to learn, but I hope to have the basics down by the end of the week. And I'll be sure to pester you fine folks with all kinds of questions and common practices.
ill be using my XR18 for the second time since I’ve had it. I had to get a little help understanding some things. I have a external router running my iPad via WiFi, and I have my MacBook hardwired. What I’m not sure about is if I should run my setup normal or my subs in aux. I hear my bass too much in the tops, but that’s me trying it out in my house. I think if I have the time I’ll try both ways. Any suggestions would be welcomed.
