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Beiber, Spalding, Hair Touching

#21
There might be some validity for this thread if Spalding (the supposed offended party) had complained. As it is right now it's just the rantings of some immature race-baiting publicity hound moron. What we have here is a racial troll article and sharing this with us is nothing but massive troll failure. The author badly needs:

a) a life;)

b) a sense of perspective:eyebrow:

c) some grasp of reality:rollno:

d) something else to do with their time:bassist:
 
#25
burk48237 said:
There might be some validity for this thread if Spalding (the supposed offended party) had complained. As it is right now it's just the rantings of some immature race-baiting publicity hound moron. What we have here is a racial troll article and sharing this with us is nothing but massive troll failure. The author badly needs:

a) a life;)

b) a sense of perspective:eyebrow:

c) some grasp of reality:rollno:

d) something else to do with their time:bassist:
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Yes, that was kind of my point - frankly, this isn't even news worthy when you consider what's going on in the world at the moment.
 
#26
IMO, I think the link I shared is good information if you're open to it. It is important to know that things that may seem like nothing to you can be profound insults to someone else. That is not trolling, it is a fact. What you guys want to call race-baiting is simply what many black women feel when it comes to their hair.

As I said before, I have no way of knowing if Esperanza Spalding was offended by Beiber or not. I do know that if she were offended, it is likely that she would not have felt comfortable directly confronting him or publicly criticizing him because she would have been called on the carpet for being overly sensitive or politically correct, and an up and coming artist cannot afford that kind of publicity.

As men, if we have learned nothing over the past thirty years, it should be that women often are not as direct when they are offended, and can silently take treatment that they may actually see as disrespectful or abusive.
 
#28
Dr. Cheese said:
IMO, I think the link I shared is good information if you're open to it. It is important to know that things that may seem like nothing to you can be profound insults to someone else. That is not trolling, it is a fact. What you guys want to call race-baiting is simply what many black women feel when it comes to their hair.

As I said before, I have no way of knowing if Esperanza Spalding was offended by Beiber or not. I do know that if she were offended, it is likely that she would not have felt comfortable directly confronting him or publicly criticizing him because she would have been called on the carpet for being overly sensitive or politically correct, and an up and coming artist cannot afford that kind of publicity.

As men, if we have learned nothing over the past thirty years, it should be that women often are not as direct when they are offended, and can silently take treatment that they may actually see as disrespectful or abusive.
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So this is essentially a racial/gender-centric PSA?
thanks!

I'm just teasing you Doc. I usually like your threads a lot. This one? Meh, it just does seem to be a little race-baiting-ish, if even unintentionally.

As I look back, I've been in more inter-racial relationships than I have same race ones. The one thing that rings true to me at least is that there are far more differences based on gender than there are based on race.
The racial ones are very easy to overcome, the gender ones? Not so much.
 
#29
Dr. Cheese said:
That is not trolling, it is a fact.
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Give it up, dude. You're not fooling anyone and the hole you're digging keeps getting deeper and deeper.

The author's IQ isn't even in the double digits and spreading that crap isn't that far behind either. Is that the highest standard you have for yourself?

You need a reality check quickly followed by monitored or restricted Internet access.
 
#33
*he touched my hair*
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KIDDING- if that little germ touched my mostly-gone crop, I'd be playing jump rope w/his intestines. :spit:
 
#35
Not even considering any racial angle, it's an invasion of personal space to touch someone you don't know without their permission.

My wife really does not appreciate strangers touching or trying to touch her belly. Being pregnant doesn't change boundaries or make it any more acceptable for strangers to put their hands on you. Neither does having different hair.

Is it worth getting all upset over? Not in my opinion. But it is incredibly annoying.

As a side note, I told my wife that next time a woman (it's always women) she doesn't know puts her hand on her belly and asks how far along she is she should say, "36 weeks". Then she should grab their breasts and ask what kind of bra they are wearing.

Somehow I don't think she'll do it.
 
#38
I think it would be a different story if it were some stranger touching her hair. If it's not an issue to Esperanza Spalding, why would it be for some writer?

I can blame Bieber for many things, but wanting to touch Esperanza's hair is not one of them.
 
#39
Relic said:
I don't really like my hair touched either to be honest. White or Black, messing with someone's hair is rude. Is this really a racial issue? When I had long hair, some Black gals I knew used to play with it - were they being racially insensitive?

Personally I'm thinking that neither party in this issue is important enough in the grand scheme of things to really care much about this. With people dying all over the Middle East at the moment, I think the world's got bigger issues to worry about.
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Good post. Touching is an issue that people can feel strongly about and some people would be better for being aware of that, but this is not in any way a racial issue and the author of the article linked to in the OP deserves zero respect for attempting to make it one.
 
#40
bassybill said:
Good post. Touching is an issue that people can feel strongly about and some people would be better for being aware of that, but this is not in any way a racial issue and the author of the article linked to in the OP deserves zero respect for attempting to make it one.
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I disagree, imagine being a black woman or girl with natural hair who is in an environment where most people have straight hair. Folks wanting to touch your kinky hair can get tired very fast. I've seen it and I have had female relatives and friends talk about it. It really grates their nerves!
 

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