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Bergantino AE212; Part 2!!
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Have a streamliner 900 on order to try pairing with my AE212. Still have a AE410 if the streamliner doesn't work to my liking with the AE212. Had the AE212 on a small gig about a weelk ago. Powered by the GK MB200 and it rocked. Our stage sound was a bit more garage band style since we didn't have the drums mic'd and the guitarists didn't have their marshall half stacks, but the AE212 filled out the low end real nice. Still haven't powered it with the M6 yet, but yunno life happens.
Depending on your tonal preferences, the AE410 & SL900 seems like yin/yang and the AE212 & SL900 yang/yang -- not night and day, but I think the AE410 would bring out a punchier/more-cutting overall tone.
Good thing I have both
. On Ed Friedland's review of the streamliner he is using the Uber 212, I beleive and it sounds great IMO. Not sure if anyone has compared the AE212 to the Uber212, but I can't imagine sounding bad.I think it depends. I know Ken had that impression, but he's also cutting lows often on his rigs and boosting upper mids to get his tone. Honestly, the AE212 has a good bit of upper-mid going on already, and it's not what I'd call a hugely fat sounding cabinet to begin with, but rather tight. Some folks might want more low-end, so the they might prefer it over the AE410 with the Streamliner. IMO, folks who don't want a fair amount of upper-mid articulation and punch would do best to stay away from the AE line of cabinets completely. They're all about punch and articulation. If you consider that a vintage head like the Streamliner might generally attract an audience that isn't about that characteristic, then there are other cabs that many might enjoy much more. The Uber line is probably a better place to start for those than the AE cabs. The Uber is still on the articulate side, but not to the degree of the AE's IME.
I agree the Uber 212 sounded good in the clips.
For the more vintage crowd, the NV610 or NV412 should be the cat's meow.
Thanks for the tip on the cover. I just found out that Genz Benz build the Shuttle Max 9.2 I bet that amp and the AE212 should sound sick
Yeah, I started to mention it, but that mid-driver makes it borderline non-vintage -- I think it would be right up my alley, but I'm fairly non-vintage myself (as far as my tone preferences...
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Got a question, I don't know if it was brought up before. I have the AE212 and the Shuttle 9.0 The amp is 900watts and the cab is 600 watts, can anyone tell me what is the limit of the gain and volume the 9.0 can go without damaging the speakers.
I set my gain at about 9 o'clock, pre-volume at about 12 o'clock, and master volume at about 11 or 12 o'clock. None of my EQ gains are set past 1 o'clock. With these settings, I'm not really pushing the cab ... it would take a lot more.
otto B said:
Don't worry about it. Use your ears. If you hear what sounds like mechanical stress on the drivers, then back off. The Ae212 and 9.0 are made for each other. Perfect match of power and tone.
Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon terse messages. All spelling errors are the sole property of Apple, Inc.
There's no real answer to your question.
Eublet is correct though -- safest to use your ears.
Also, technique and EQing have a big impact on any given gain/volume settings.
If things get so loud that you can't clearly distinquish what your cab is doing, you and your band are too freakin' loud.
Greg at Rocket Music may very well do some sound clips of the Streamliner through the AE212 soon.
Hi-fi, PA, or bass rigs; all of the best sounding "rigs" (that use solid state amplification) I have ever heard always have more power available than the speakers are rated for!
I've got no problem that I use my Shuttle 9 for both the AE212 and a single AE112. Again like Eublet said use your ears.
I've got no problem that I use my Shuttle 9 for both the AE212 and a single AE112. Again like Eublet said use your ears.
Stll on the road. Wonderful gigs with the AE212 and the LMII and my new Nordy 5 string P bass. Amazing matchup... warm, fat, but not boomy or muddy. The perfect P Bass rig for those that want a warm but still clean and articulate P Bass tone. Smoking volume also. The LMII had been assigned to back-up role for a couple of years now, and I still prefer the F1/F500 with my J basses. However, the warmer, smoother tone of the LMII just sings with the passive P. 
