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Bergantino B/Amp at NAMM

#904
mwbonsall said:
I don't see one listed. Not sure if the "NV115 Dual Speaker Profile" would work.

Mark
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Hmmm Will try. .. but, again. ..if I'm hauling my NV215, it's usually coz. ....
1. The gig will benefit from it.
2. I'LL benefit from it :smug::cool:
3. There's good level access to stage area.
4. If all the above. ... I'll mostly take my 300w all tube Super Bassman. ..
And that ain't no slight on the B-Amp, just that I like. ..LOVE the all valve gooeyness of the SB300.

That said. ..there are lots of gigs where all those above don't apply and weight savings are a benefit or the other great aspects of the B-Amp come to the fore :- great tone, superb tone/eq sculpting, ....I could go on. . :hyper:
 
#905
Another question. ..

I'm also a noob when it comes to compressors... and am just an old school slap n pop kind. .. a little Larry Graham style once or twice a night is all, mostly. . Sometimes I've a few more songs that'll need it. ... so for these I'm thinking of using the B-Amp's comp. ..

Anyone got any hints on settings for the onboard comp for this sorta application?
Thanks
 
#906
rodl2005 said:
Another question. ..

I'm also a noob when it comes to compressors... and am just an old school slap n pop kind. .. a little Larry Graham style once or twice a night is all, mostly. . Sometimes I've a few more songs that'll need it. ... so for these I'm thinking of using the B-Amp's comp. ..

Anyone got any hints on settings for the onboard comp for this sorta application?
Thanks
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Start with the lowest compression setting and make sure your input gain is high enough to trigger it. Increase it as needed but advise starting a "1"
 
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#908
The VFBF is just a notch filter, Jim was just smart enough to put it in terms of notes (C1, D1, etc) as well as Hz. When you're playing, it's often a specific note that causes the whole thing to resonate, so you can just dial in that specific note immediately with no guesswork. The amount of gain reduction is variable (0 to -12dB in 1 dB steps), but the filter can only act on one note/frequency.
 
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#909
RocketMusic said:
The VFBF is just a notch filter, Jim was just smart enough to put it in terms of notes (C1, D1, etc) as well as Hz. When you're playing, it's often a specific note that causes the whole thing to resonate, so you can just dial in that specific note immediately with no guesswork.
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That is really smart - and practical. When you play D the room explodes. Dial D1 out and bam. No searching for the right frequency. Fixed in 30 seconds.
 
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RocketMusic said:
The VFBF is just a notch filter, Jim was just smart enough to put it in terms of notes (C1, D1, etc) as well as Hz. When you're playing, it's often a specific note that causes the whole thing to resonate, so you can just dial in that specific note immediately with no guesswork. The amount of gain reduction is variable (0 to -12dB in 1 dB steps), but the filter can only act on one note/frequency.
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Thanks Greg for your explanation. This is correct except is goes from "Off" straight to -6db, then -1db increments to -12db. I don't know of too many feedback issues which can be resolved with less than 6db of cut. ;-} Another cool feature of the B|AMP is that you can go into the program menus and reverse the phase of the B|Amp's output to your speaker, but not the DI. Sometimes feedback or other issues are caused by the phase relationship with the FOH and monitor systems. The reason the DI's output is not reversed is that if it were, you would still have the same relative phase relationship with the FOH, and same problem (assuming of course you are going DI into the board).

One quick thing I forgot to mention is that since feedback is typically room dependent, to avoid the scenario where a player uses the VFBF one night in a specific room, but forgets to turn it off before the next gig, giving them a nice -6db or so notch in their response unknowingly, the VFBF is automatically reset to off on power recycle. We got you covered! ;-}
 
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What's funny is that despite the fact there's so much stuff under the hood, you can just plug the darn thing in, plug into it, and play.

And it will sound fantastic.

I'm doing about 20 shows over the next couple weeks when I will literally be doing just that. No effects, no overdrive (which I love), nothing. Just my bass into a flat amp.

People must like it, because I just got contracted recently by this theater to do another years' worth of shows with them.

My advice to new B|Amp owners is don't overthink. Sure, set the profile if you have a Bergie cabinet. Then just play it flat. Season to taste when you're ready to try stuff.
 
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kjones said:
What's funny is that despite the fact there's so much stuff under the hood, you can just plug the darn thing in, plug into it, and play.

And it will sound fantastic.

I'm doing about 20 shows over the next couple weeks when I will literally be doing just that. No effects, no overdrive (which I love), nothing. Just my bass into a flat amp.

People must like it, because I just got contracted recently by this theater to do another years' worth of shows with them.

My advice to new B|Amp owners is don't overthink. Sure, set the profile if you have a Bergie cabinet. Then just play it flat. Season to taste when you're ready to try stuff.
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This, one thousand percent.
 
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#918
Jim Bergantino said:
Thanks Greg for your explanation. This is correct except is goes from "Off" straight to -6db, then -1db increments to -12db. I don't know of too many feedback issues which can be resolved with less than 6db of cut. ;-} Another cool feature of the B|AMP is that you can go into the program menus and reverse the phase of the B|Amp's output to your speaker, but not the DI. Sometimes feedback or other issues are caused by the phase relationship with the FOH and monitor systems. The reason the DI's output is not reversed is that if it were, you would still have the same relative phase relationship with the FOH, and same problem (assuming of course you are going DI into the board).

One quick thing I forgot to mention is that since feedback is typically room dependent, to avoid the scenario where a player uses the VFBF one night in a specific room, but forgets to turn it off before the next gig, giving them a nice -6db or so notch in their response unknowingly, the VFBF is automatically reset to off on power recycle. We got you covered! ;-}
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Hello Jim,
I just ordered one of your Reference 210 cabinets... Cant wait to hear the cabinet and how it will pair with my CN112.
I've really enjoy the CN112 with a Blue Soul amp, looking into purchasing a B|Amp in the near future.
Any recommendations on paring the CN112 with the REF 210?
 
#920
bikeplate said:
Got my carry bag the other day. Very nice. Amp is killer, btw. Using the compressor and like it alot
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That is a nice compressor, isn't it? It seems like the deeper I dig into the B|Amp's capabilities, and the more I compare it to other (really good) bass heads, the more it impresses.
 
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