Bergantino NV212T

[RBASS930]

This deserves it's own thread. I've never tried a sealed 212 before. Should be interesting.
Taken from HERE

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Specifications:
Woofer: 2-12” Ceramic Magnet Woofers w/ Vented Pole Pieces
Tweeter: High Intelligibility NV Series Tweeter
Cabinet Design: Sealed
Cabinet Material: Baltic Birch Plywood
Cabinet Covering: Black Tolex
Impedance: 8-ohms
Power Handling: 400W RMS
Crossover: Custom Phase-Coherent Crossover w/ Tweeter Level Control
Frequency Response: 43hZ - 12KhZ
Sensitivity: 99db @ 2.83v / 1-meter
Dimensions: 31”H x 18-1/2”W x 15”D (78cm x 47cm x 38cm)
Weight: 70 Lbs / 31 Kg

 

[husky123]

I WILL have one!

 

[ScottTunes]

I love sealed cabs, and have built a few for myself, nearly identical in dimensions to this Berg. However, mine have no tweeter (or the necessary cross-over), and weigh less than this one. Should be a great cabinet!

 

[kpc]

This deserves it's own thread. I've never tried a sealed 212 before. Should be interesting.
Taken from HERE

HERE

Specifications:
Woofer: 2-12” Ceramic Magnet Woofers w/ Vented Pole Pieces
Tweeter: High Intelligibility NV Series Tweeter
Cabinet Design: Sealed
Cabinet Material: Baltic Birch Plywood
Cabinet Covering: Black Tolex
Impedance: 8-ohms
Power Handling: 400W RMS
Crossover: Custom Phase-Coherent Crossover w/ Tweeter Level Control
Frequency Response: 43hZ - 12KhZ
Sensitivity: 99db @ 2.83v / 1-meter
Dimensions: 31”H x 18-1/2”W x 15”D (78cm x 47cm x 38cm)
Weight: 70 Lbs / 31 Kg


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Beautiful...but a little heavy for me. I'd prolly go for neo version.

 

[tombowlus]

I WILL have one!

I'm thinking two!

 

[Soulfinger]

I hope they're using vintage style tweeters!

 

[MrDOS]

You can get your "vintage style" tweeter by switching it off, if you like.

 

[kranahan]

Sounds awesome! Now all we need is an NV410!

 

[JFLbass]

Sounds awesome! Now all we need is an NV410!

And a NV112 !!!!!

 

[silky smoove]

I'll be curious to hear how this stacks up against an HD212.

 

[BassHouston]

For those who have tried both HD and the NV cabs, in general, how would describe to tonal differences between the two?

 

[Al Kraft]

For those who have tried both HD and the NV cans, how would describe to tone difference between the two?

At least on the models I've tried, the NV cabs had slow roll off on lows with a tighter feel and less low-end extension content in their voicing/tuning. Feeding the NV's a fair amount of power gives a a very strong presence without the cab ever becoming overly booming. The top end on the non-T version was a little less bright. The HD's have a mule kick and some serious low end extension with full mids. I also think they are a bit more present on the high end (upper mids and highs) with a very highly detailed voicing characteristic that almost jumps out at you. That's how I hear them, YMMV!

 

[Stranger Danger]

Only 400 watts?

 

[honeyiscool]

Only 400 watts?

For an 8-ohm cab, that seems plenty.

 

[Stranger Danger]

For an 8-ohm cab, that seems plenty.

I suppose. I'd definitely need two for my gigs.

 

[Guinness20]

Bet it sounds killer! I'm happy with my CN212, my back will thank me for not going ceramic!

 

[BassHouston]

At least on the models I've tried, the NV cabs had slow roll off on lows with a tighter feel and less low-end extension content in their voicing/tuning. Feeding the NV's a fair amount of power gives a a very strong presence without the cab ever becoming overly booming. The top end on the non-T version was a little less bright. The HD's have a mule kick and some serious low end extension with full mids. I also think they are a bit more present on the high end (upper mids and highs) with a a very highly detailed voicing characteristic that almost jumps out at you. That's how I hear them, YMMV!

Thank you for the detailed reply. Very curious to try this one when it's available.

 

[InhumanResource]

I hope it'll be under $1200 :\

 

[MJ_Sotti]

$1100

 

[Anders Barfod]

not always but sealed cabs tend to be tighter and not go as low as ported cab. The smaller the sealed cab is the higher the speakers resonance frequency (RF) value will increase due to the air inside the cab pushing back on the speaker sometimes creating a tighter sound than some ported cabs.
THis cussion effect helped old speakers survive in the first ampeg 8x10 which i think had a paper bobbin and rated at 30w each or 240w for the 8x10 cab at 4 ohm driven by a 300W tube amp. Also these old ampeg cabs did not go low and you never heard the fundamental of the low E string. Spending less energy on the lows the ampeg was loud for its given wattage as it pumped out much more 120Hz than 60Hz which are much more audible in a mix and to the human ear.

Most bass cabs have very little of the fundamental note of the low B and E, below 50Hz in general. And If you want to get those clean lows you need a well designed cab, high rated speakers with a long excursion and a lot of power.
Pushing the bass knob (often centered at 40-50Hz) on modern amps are a no no in my book for maintaining a good stage sound. WHen you start pushing "air" (40-50Hz) the stage gets filled with this annoying rumble which you can't hear but you get stressed because stage volume is too high.. Its the same with a 4x12 guitar cab on smaller stages. The bass can easily get out of hand.