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Biggest mistake a band ever made

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OK, here's my contribution. In my opinion, the biggest mistakes a band could make are those that compromise or taint the band's legacy by stripping it of integrity. Examples:

  • Led Zeppelin should have just covered "Killing Floor" and given credit to Howlin' Wolf. Instead they added a sexual verse that had nothing to do with the lyrical theme, just so they could change the name and get more copyright dollars. It was a prick move, and a shame considering that the Lemon Song was a fantastic musical interpretation.

  • Some bands abuse Pro Tools and use it like an Excel spreadsheet. By that I mean, they will take a hit song, and then trace over each part with similar parts until they get a carbon copy hit. Nickelback is most infamous for that, and it is the most legitimate reason for the backlash they get. 311 revealed in an interview that they used this technique for the cover of The Cure's "Love Song". They literally dumped the original song into Pro Tools, and then each band member copied over their part. That to me is not a true cover song, which is an interpretation of someone else's work. This is more like putting tracing paper over a painting, and then producing a copy.

  • Ruining a band's image as family with trashtalk about ex-members. Like drummer Charlie Benante falsely claiming that he recorded Dan Spitz's leads on early Anthrax albums.

  • Re-releasing or re-recording an album after redubbing a band member's parts, just to screw them over. Marty Friedman's guitar solos on Megadeth's 'Rust in Peace' were brilliant. They were also Chris Poland's ideas. A writing credit would have been the honorable course. Or like when Ozzy allowed Sharon to hire a scrub to re-do Bob Daisley's bass parts for 2002 album reissues, just to screw him out of money. These kind of cloak-and-dagger maneuvers tend to come to light anyway, and they always make the powerful members in bands look like heinous people.


True about the Lemon Song, and if you want to hear a SMOKIN' version of Killin Floor, listen to the Electric Flag's take on it.
 
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In the early to mid 1970's, Uriah Heep were the kings of stadium rock in America. They had three cutting edge very well loved albums released back to back and they were adored by the American rock markets and I was one of them. They filled every stadium they booked. And their show was astounding. I saw them three times back then. But their luster faded rapidly when they fired the front man and bassist in rapid succession. Their manager was enjoying the money that came from packed house after packed house and thought Heep were bigger than the performers. He was wrong and Heep never much left a mark on the American market after that.

I saw them in '76 as the opening act for KISS. They were still quite good, but my 13 year old ass was there to see something quite different than those guys!
 
I saw them in '76 as the opening act for KISS. They were still quite good, but my 13 year old ass was there to see something quite different than those guys!
I saw Heep on that tour as well. They were good, but I didn't like John Lawton singing at all. His voice was too theatrical, and I thought his glam look was way over the top and out of place in Heep. I like the guy they have now...Bernie Shaw. He's not Dave Byron, but he's darn good.

As a side note, the show I saw was the one where Ace almost got killed by the metal staircase he was standing on. Not a coincidence that their next stage had plexiglas stairs, although there was probably no need for it as they had were wireless by then, too.
 
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OK - gotta get back to band mistakes before this gets any weirder.

In an effort to get a quick OT post out there, I'll go back to my first one re: The Replacements. The book I cited is full of personal and band self sabotage. Many of career killing stunts were on stage, others were in the offices of record company execs, others on the road, on radio, and so on. No one thing doomed them, but getting hammered for your national TV debut, on SNL no less, and then dropping an F bomb (nearly inaudible IMHO) certainly rates rather high on the list of errors. Do NOT piss off Lorne Michaels.

BTW - The video is tilted to avoid NBC/Warner Bros detection.

 
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OK - gotta get back to band mistakes before this gets any weirder.

In an effort to get a quick OT post out there, I'll go back to my first one re: The Replacements. The book I cited is full of personal and band self sabotage. Many of career killing stunts were on stage, others were in the offices of record company execs, others on the road, on radio, and so on. No one thing doomed them, but getting hammered for your national TV debut, on SNL no less, and then dropping an F bomb (nearly inaudible IMHO) certainly rates rather high on the list of errors. Do NOT piss off Lorne Michaels.

BTW - The video is tilted to avoid NBC/Warner Bros detection.


JMac, is that you stomping around and choking that ric like it just insulted your mom?!? You looking goood :thumbsup: Was it Paul that dropped the f-bomb while stepping away from the mic?