Biggest mistake a band ever made

[catcauphonic]

Have you not heard their most recent single?????? 10/10

And i really dig the vibe of this one from a few years ago >

 

[morgansterne]

I'm going to have to go with Van Halen firing David Lee Roth or him quitting which ever happened. Van Hagar just wasn't the same in my opinion. The original line up was the best and had a charismatic charm.

But they had huge hits with "dreams" and "love comes walking in." Probably others that I'm forgetting. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a financial mistake.
more importantly, they rescued Sammy Hagar from all the dreadful music he was making before that.

 

[Cropduster]

3 G'n'R members went on to form Velvet Revolver

KISS put their makeup back on, more than once

I think Ozzy actually thought he could do better on his own, from what I've read

Keith explains why Taylor left the Stones in his book Life
(yes, you should read it)

Alice (Vincent)'s new band rocks
Nita Strauss is in there & she is a goddess on her Ibanez Saber series (very similar to one I had)

Rick Rubin completely changed The Cult's sound (like the UK AC/DC). Yeah, they sold more records, but I'm unsure not using him on their subsequent albums is what curbed the fans' enthusiasm

the Beatles & PF breakups weren't exactly voluntary
Aerosmith went through the same sort of trials, but somehow pulled through


Wiliam Broad (Billy Idol) completely messed up when he released that techno-dance album, CyberPunk:

He wouldn't make another album for a over a decade after this farce.


add:
Rick Rubin did ok for the Cult on Electric, but Bob Rock did even better for them on Sonic Temple (it's considered their breakthrough album)

I thought "Love" was their breakthrough album, i have a soft spot for The Cult, always have, Electric is my favourite, and they're one band where line up changes have had a positive effect, Astbury/Duffy are obviously the driving force but the different drummers and bass players have added their flavour making each album different enough but still very recognisable as The Cult.

 

[Cropduster]

Brittany Spears should have posed for Playboy while the going was good.

I'd buy it today.......

 

[Cropduster]

OK here's mine,



Van Halen III

Ummm, I actually like that album, LOL, not a Gary Cherone fan but hey, it's the only time they toured Australia so i had to take what i could get....

Fair Warning was their best, with Roth, Of course.

 

[Londo Molari]

Let's not forget King Crimson declining to take Elton John on as lead vocalist.
Crimson would have been HUGE with Elton as frontman and Mellotronist.

 

[tbz]

Ozzy was a mess and the band had had enough of him. The reason he got awesome again was because Sharon married him, propped him up, put her hand up his rear and played him like a puppet. Also. Randy Rhodes and Zack.

FTFY.

 

[tbz]

The mistake with KISS was not sorting out a way for Peter and Ace to remain in the band. The contrast is music, attitude, interest and 'what they brought to the band' was what made the band such a beast...once SimStan took full control, the band became reactive and focused on trying to mimic what was popular...and then we end up with World Without Heroes while makeup is worn.
Vinnie Vincent's big mistake was that terrible 'throwing motion camera point' just before the chorus on the Lick It Up video....you would think that by the time the world had reached post nuclear Holocaust, guys in street gangs wouldn't throw like girls.
Ace should have considered joining as Tom Snyder's Ed McMahon...there was legit chemistry there as well as an appreciation for laughter and fish related puns...empires have been built on less!

Have you read Ace's or Peter's bios?

There's no way they could have stayed with the band. They were not consistently able to stand when they were fired the first time.

When you add in how antagonistic they were towards Gene and Paul....yeah....no chance.

 

[JimmyM]

I always wonder how some bands (and people in them) make the decisions they do.
A few examples would be personnel changes, musical direction changes, changes in producer, recording engineers, their overall band "look" and stuff like that.

-Why did Mick Taylor leave the Rolling Stones? ....he never did anything of note since and Ronnie Wood stepped in and has had a great career as the other guitar player.

Agreed.

-Black Sabbath fired Ozzy and then Ozzy went and kicked their ass for a decade or two before reconciliation measures brought them back together.

Ozzy wanted out, but there was some talk about him relinquishing a big money settlement if he quit, so he did a lot of drugs and alienated himself from the rest of them till they had no choice. But it wasn't much of a mistake when you consider they got Ronnie James Dio and had a couple huge albums with him.

-Kiss took off their makeup, the only thing the band ever had going for them.

And had quite a few huge albums and continued to make tons of money on tour. Heck, the first one right out of the gate was the biggest album they had in years.

-Alice Cooper dumped his band and his records just turned into mush.

True.

-Any band that ever stopped using Bob Ezrin, Mutt Lange, Rick Rubin or Butch Vig payed the price.

AC/DC stopped using Mutt Lange and it didn't hurt them any. The Cult stopped using Rick Rubin and had a huge album even bigger than the one Rick produced. Nirvana used Steve Albini after Butch and had an album almost as huge as Nevermind. And a lot of bands quit using Ezrin and still had big albums.

-The Beatles breaking up was idiotic.

Right, because instead of a hugely successful band, they became 4 hugely successful solo acts.

-Guns and Roses breaking up was bad for everyone but Slash.

Wasn't so awesome for him, either.

-Pink Floyd breaking up was dumb.

For Roger Waters.

 

[tbz]

So, Roger Waters quitting was clearly a dumb idea, and eventually lots of musicians figure that out.

99% sure he'd disagree with you.

That whole 4+ year long Wall tour a few years back was far more lucrative than anything he missed out on. Artistically he's happier.

Can't see how that makes any sense tbh. He's rolling in money and can do whatever he wants. He was done with Floyd when he bailed....so....yeah...don't see how that makes sense.

 

[BigEarl]

What I can never figure out is the "double mistake", like Floyd firing original member Rick Wright, only to hire him back as a not-full-member contractor ...And why would he even take that deal in the first place?!?!

 

[tbz]

What I can never figure out is the "double mistake", like Floyd firing original member Rick Wright, only to hire him back as a not-full-member contractor ...And why would he even take that deal in the first place?!?!

He was an incredibly affable fellow by all accounts. Apparently he just wanted to play and didn't care about the drama.

In all fairness of the original 4 he's the only one that *didn't* lose money on the Wall tour in the 80s....since he was being paid a salary......so he came out ahead in the end.

 

[Ric5]

I always wonder how some bands (and people in them) make the decisions they do.
A few examples would be personnel changes, musical direction changes, changes in producer, recording engineers, their overall band "look" and stuff like that.

-Why did Mick Taylor leave the Rolling Stones? ....he never did anything of note since and Ronnie Wood stepped in and has had a great career as the other guitar player.

-Black Sabbath fired Ozzy and then Ozzy went and kicked their ass for a decade or two before reconciliation measures brought them back together.

-Kiss took off their makeup, the only thing the band ever had going for them.

-Alice Cooper dumped his band and his records just turned into mush.

-Any band that ever stopped using Bob Ezrin, Mutt Lange, Rick Rubin or Butch Vig payed the price.

-The Beatles breaking up was idiotic.

-Guns and Roses breaking up was bad for everyone but Slash.

-Pink Floyd breaking up was dumb.


So, what are the biggest mistakes other bands have made..???

Stuff happens ... life goes on ...

 

[Spectrum]

FTFY.

No you didn't fix it for me and I don't appreciate you using my quote to state your own opinion.

 

[tbz]

No you didn't fix it for me and I don't appreciate you using my quote to state your own opinion.

No offense intended. Sorry about that!

 

[Bassique]

Metallica firing Dave Mustaine. They just fizzled after that.

But then we wouldn't have Megadeth, so I'm glad that "mistake" happened.

 

[zontar]

Agreed, but as often happens, the separate members never produced work anywhere near as good as the Beatles did as a band.

Roger Waters and David Gilmour have never made a solo record anywhere near the material that they were previously producing.

I actually like David Gilmour's first solo album better than anything Pink Floyd put out--with the possible exception of Wish You Were HEre.
But maybe that's just me.

 

[zontar]

I believe Alice Cooper/Vincent Furnier did dump his band, please fill me in if I am mistaken.
There were alcohol problems with Glen Buxton but I believe Vincent just did not call the remaining members of the band to make Welcome to My Nightmare.
Instead, he hired a bunch of studio musicians and made albums that sounded like a lounge singer and some studio musicians.
So far from what the Alice Cooper Band had been, and it happened the minute he dumped them.
The contrast from Billion Dollar Babies to Welcome To My Nightmare is pretty dramatic.

Remember there was also Muscle of Love in between--it was a decent album, but not as good as the ones from Love it to Death through to Billion Dollar Babies.

As I have heard it--the idea was the others wanted to get back to less fancy stage stuff--more straight forward stuff, Alice & Shep wanted to go bigger--so Alice was going to do a solo album & things stayed that way.
GB likely wouldn't have been part of things after Muscle of Love anyway--the other three did form a band called Billion Dollar babies & released one album.

 

[5544]

Not a band, but a player.

Jason Everman was involved with Nirvana, Soundgarden, and I think even Pearl Jam. Talk about coming close to grasping superstardom on several occasions and not achieving it.

Actually, Nirvana screwed him over and Chris from Soundgarden didn't like him.

An Interesting Life: Jason Everman - MLR Podcast 022 | Music Life Radio

 

[Bassique]

I would say that was pretty bad when many of the 70's prog/classic rock bands changed the style in the 80's(Yes, Genesis, Kansas) to name a few.