Bill Nash Bass Info

[Matt R.]

Very cool. Thanks for all the input everyone, I really appreciate it and it's been helpful

 

[Matt R.]

If you want to build a bass then building an allparts or warmoth bass is a worthwhile excercise. If it's your first build and you're doing it to save money you won't end up with a bass as good as what you could buy from Nash. Plus with the Nash you can order one and if you don't like it you can send it back. You put together a bass and you don't like it and you're going to take a bath when you try and sell it. Buy right cry once, and it's always cheaper to buy than to build.

Dave

PS. I've owned a Nash jazz since last winter and it's become my favorite 4 stringer.

I've built several actually, but the Nash I'm eyeballing is so ******* cool, I can't seem to resist...

 

[Brian Barrett]

Matt

Hey man, I believe you talked to Beav when you called, I just got in from Arlington, TX show and I recall a phone call that came in wed or Thurs while packing up. The Necks are Lic. sorry Beav didn't know. They have as of late been allparts, his body's have been made else where but not sure where, I do not believe them to be allpart or warmoth. Please understand to have a Fender Headstock it must me Lic. There is no way around that.

Let clear one statement real quick though made... there are other basses that are held in high regards that are "Parts basses" if your idea of a parts bass is a neck and body bought from a company that produces them and sells them to others to put together. There is no difference other then specs from Warmoth, NC Solutions, WildWoods, US Customs, etc. So paying 1600 for a Nash is to much and paying over 3k for another that are really no difference other then added electronics and from another factory isn't fair to say about Bill. What you pay for is the personal touch the artistic design, specs, setup, fret level, etc.

I also think that putting together a bass from allparts or warmoth as Nino said for 1600 isn't easy because there is fret leveling, setup and Much fine tuning an instrument for a correctly built and playing instrument. Finish, Hardware (don't forget all the hardware, not just tuners and bridge)

Anyway, I'm Bills Number 1 bass dealer . He does amazing work and well worth the money to someone wanting what Bill offers!

Thanks
Brian

 

[Matt R.]

Matt

Hey man, I believe you talked to Beav when you called, I just got in from Arlington, TX show and I recall a phone call that came in wed or Thurs while packing up. The Necks are Lic. sorry Beav didn't know. They have as of late been allparts, his body's have been made else where but not sure where, I do not believe them to be allpart or warmoth. Please understand to have a Fender Headstock it must me Lic. There is no way around that.

Let clear one statement real quick though made... there are other basses that are held in high regards that are "Parts basses" if your idea of a parts bass is a neck and body bought from a company that produces them and sells them to others to put together. There is no difference other then specs from Warmoth, NC Solutions, WildWoods, US Customs, etc. So paying 1600 for a Nash is to much and paying over 3k for another that are really no difference other then added electronics and from another factory isn't fair to say about Bill. What you pay for is the personal touch the artistic design, specs, setup, fret level, etc.

I also think that putting together a bass from allparts or warmoth as Nino said for 1600 isn't easy because there is fret leveling, setup and Much fine tuning an instrument for a correctly built and playing instrument. Finish, Hardware (don't forget all the hardware, not just tuners and bridge)

Anyway, I'm Bills Number 1 bass dealer . He does amazing work and well worth the money to someone wanting what Bill offers!

Thanks
Brian

Thanks for the reply. No, I wasn't automatically thinking I would be paying too much...Hope no offense was taken there, and I was certainly not being unfair. Gotta be fair to myself, since I am a broke musician I was just wondering if the bass would be a good value based on whatever parts were used, and never having played a Nash for more than 30 seconds, I don't have an accurate idea of the quality. But, as I stated above the Nash felt and played unbelieveably great. I also conceded the point that I didn't think through the fit/finish side of things at length in an earlier post. And as far as it not having Fender on it, I understand the licensing issue with logos, so that was never even a concern of mine. Hope this clarifies my points

Thanks for your input and I will be making a visit to your shop soon

Cheers
Matt

 

[Brian Barrett]

Matt

Hey man, wasn't as much a reply to you directly, but more of some statements made here .........

Thanks man,
Brian

 

[ibanezcollector]

Brian, I dont think anyone including myself was saying his basses were not worth what they are, but they are what they are which is off the shelf production bodys and necks.

Now what he does with them after that point is completely valid. I know I put a ton of work into the Squiers and such I relic and at times I dont even know why I do it for the prices I do other than its a hobby. But sometimes you think to yourself I should be charging more for this kind of work. And maybe sometime next year when I can build a spray booth I may. As I will be essentially doing the same thing Nash and others are doing.

Nash is the king in the US as far as relics go, and has been a inspiration to a nobody like myself, I look up to him so I also want to say hope it wasnt my comments that statement was directed to.

 

[Brian Barrett]

No it wasn't your comment either, it was in general to the "Its an Allpart Neck or Wamoth" as though its really any different then a Neck from NC Solutions, wildwoods with another logo name on the headstock. The Fact is, no matter if Bill takes a Neck from Allparts and reworks it or Brand AC, L or S take another company's neck and reworks it or its built to there specs really doesn't matter...... does it?

So why is one of less value and why is the other worth more... that was my real question i guess and Why someone might not think Bill's or anyone else's bass is worth more or less then another.

I guess I was just pointing out a miss-conception that seems to so often come up over one company or another...

Thanks and sorry about the post. I wasn't singling anyone out, just really trying to bring light to it.

 

[Sadowsky]

I think $1650 if very reasonable for what you get from Nash.

Roger

 

[BurningSkies]

I agree. Having done a relic project in the past, doing the hardware work and the finish work is extremely time consuming and difficult to get right. Nash does. When I did mine, the parts went to different people across the country to do the things I couldn't do myself and it easily pushed up in the 2k range to do it right.

Also, while people love to be-labor the "parts instrument" thing, it really means nothing. Quality parts are only one part of the equation, probably the larger part is the build. There's a lot of important detail work that goes into putting an instrument together, and if you think you're getting the 'same' instrument if you buy the parts and assemble it yourself versus having someone do it properly and professionally, then you get what you deserve.

IMO this is one of the reasons that there are so many "cheap" Warmoth and Allparts instruments on the second hand market. Anyone can put one together, but few can do it correctly. Then once you've learned your lesson it's too late and you completely eat the resale when your instrument is a clunker.

 

[smakbass]

I think $1650 if very reasonable for what you get from Nash.

Roger

I think that says it all.

 

[MobileHolmes]

its a good body.. Used by many people. I would prefer it to a over priced warmoth.

Is there somebody who retails allparts necks and bodies for less than you can get them direct from allparts? Everything on their site was more expensive than warmoth, at least at retail, which doesn't do me any good.

 

[Matt R.]

Matt

Hey man, wasn't as much a reply to you directly, but more of some statements made here .........

Thanks man,
Brian

No sweat whatsoever bro...I'm just trying to get educated on what I want to buy See you guys on my next trip to Murfreesboro

 

[r379]

Is there somebody who retails allparts necks and bodies for less than you can get them direct from allparts? Everything on their site was more expensive than warmoth, at least at retail, which doesn't do me any good.

Sure. I can order Allparts stuff through my local music store and they'll discount what I order the same as they would anything else I buy.

 

[MobileHolmes]

Sure. I can order Allparts stuff through my local music store and they'll discount what I order the same as they would anything else I buy.

Good to know. The prices on their site just weren't very good. I'll have to keep an eye out.

 

[albass111]

$1650, taking in consideration that there are dealers in between the transaction, is not bad at all. Of course, Nash buys parts in bulk and does the finishing and relic'ing himslef, but still the prices are very reasonable.

The problem is when you enter the used market and find used Custom Shop Fenders or USA Laklands for about the same price. That is a tough decision because Nash is not an established name yet, and value in time is still not defined (if you care for depreciation).

For the record, he sells WAY more guitars than basses. He is very established, and one would be shocked if he was allowed to disclose his artist list. He is well known and highly respected in our 6 string counterparts world.

BTW I love my Nash bass, but it isn't as cool as a friend of mine's Nash '52 tele that weighs less than 6 pounds.

 

[KPO2000]

I have two Nash basses and one on order as well as a Sadowsky and a couple vintage Fenders. I'm really enjoying these Nash basses. The play and sounds great and I think are a great deal for what you get.

 

[air_leech]

I got a Nash 57 P from Brian at the Low End in October and it is a kick ass bass.

I dont care if Bill crafted it from balsa wood using a swiss knife because it is light, feels great, sounds wonderful and looks out of this world.
it is also historically correct down to the smallest detail (not all his basses are) including the oil filled cap on the tone pot.

a thread here once claimed that Sadowsky and Lakland USA are parts basses.
I dont see what benefit in sound I would get if Bill had to cut, sand and contour the neck and body for my bass, it would probably only double the price.

if he buys from a place that uses quality woods and he does QA on the parts he gets then why not outsource them?

if you find a bass that is "The One" consider yourself lucky and buy it, dont think to much or it wont be there next time.
beside, Warmoth doesnt do Nitro finishes anyway...

 

[77PBass]

I recently received my custom order Nash 63 Jb from Brian. I love this bass!

I have been looking for a Fender Custom shop JB or affordable late 60's early 70's for 2 years. I live in NYC and have access to 20 stores. I have played probably 70 basses. I never liked the build quality of the CS basses. The finish feels plastic. The parts don't fit together properly. The 70's basses are not worth the money and the 60's were out of my range as I was looking for a player.

Bill's basses represent a tremendous value....and he is a good guy to boot. If Roger Sadowsky, a well respected member of the luthier community, has good things to say about Bill, what more can you ask?

 

[KPO2000]

Pictures? I have one on order as well via Brian? Should be ready soon...how long did your's take? I can't wait!

I recently received my custom order Nash 63 Jb from Brian. I love this bass!

I have been looking for a Fender Custom shop JB or affordable late 60's early 70's for 2 years. I live in NYC and have access to 20 stores. I have played probably 70 basses. I never liked the build quality of the CS basses. The finish feels plastic. The parts don't fit together properly. The 70's basses are not worth the money and the 60's were out of my range as I was looking for a player.

Bill's basses represent a tremendous value....and he is a good guy to boot. If Roger Sadowsky, a well respected member of the luthier community, has good things to say about Bill, what more can you ask?

 

[77PBass]

My bass is the Burgundy Mist. MRC Neck with Lollars. Blows away any Fender bass I have played in stores for the past two years except a 1965 JB at the Commack GC...that bass had an asking prices of $13K!

Both Brian and Bill are made the transaction easy. It is a leap of faith custom ordering a bass over the internet....a leap I am very happy to have taken.