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Boss GT 1000Core
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Yes I know. Most of the times they do one or two big updates and that's it....
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- Jul 21, 2020
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Having worked with the Core for some time, I came to think the full size GT1000 would have been a better option. With the Core, you can end up with many extras in order to make it do what you want, the GT1000 ends up being more convenient. YMMV
Hi everyone. I'm on a compressor GAS trail (again). I have the Becos Mini comp, but have been considering the Empress bass compressor. BUT, I have the core too. Has anyone had good experience with the Core's compressors? Which do you like, and how do any of them compare to other external compressors? What are your favorites?
Boss BC-1X is one of the best bass compressors on the market and you get the same algo in the Core (X-BASS COMP). If I need to squash the crap out of a some frequency band (say, <200Hz), the regular BOSS comp (CS-3 model) works great for that. Also have the mastering comps and some more colored models (ORANGE, D-COMP) if you need them. All good.
I've owned the older Empress comp. It's clean, has full controls and good metering, basically a good studio comp in pedal format. Don't really miss it, GTK comps get the job done. Buying pedals is a waste of money unless you want something colored, IMO.
Most of the compressors on the Core are pretty good, but I still like fiddling with different compressors with more advanced settings, so keep other compressor pedals around.
The Empress Bass Mk II is a long time favorite, as is the new SA Atlas and I still hang on to the Becos Twain and Effectrode LA-1A. I owned the BC-1X and liked it quite a bit and the algo in the Core nails it.
The Empress wins easily on a live jam setting being so easy to dial in with the Effectrode coming in second for ease of setting up.
If you want to mess around with just about everything that a compressor can offer then the SA Atlas is hard to beat.
I thought I didn't like the CORE compressors but after a few months with the hyper luminal I think I just don't need much compression. As soon as I start to notice it at all I leave it there.
I think in retrospect I enjoyed a light compression on either end of the chain rather than a a single "better" compressor up front.
I think in retrospect I enjoyed a light compression on either end of the chain rather than a a single "better" compressor up front.
Mmh, serial compression tends to sound more natural. One comp at the beginning of the chain to even things out a bit and a "glue" comp at the end of the signal chain. Additionally, I use a third comp in the middle to flatten the low bass frequencies (<200Hz) on the clean side.
Sucks to use two FX slots for compression, though. Bought a GX-100 which does away with this limitation, great little unit.
I use the X Bass Comp and the Orange Squeezer emulation. The X Bass Comp is fat and clean, while the Orange Squeezer has a hard and woody tone. They are like two opposites. I’ve used MXR and Keeley compressors and think the Boss digital compressor to be very good.
Absolutely, the GTK is a great unit. I wound up with both, and needed to sell one. The Full sized moved first, so I'm going with the CORE. I already have it set up on a board with 2 X FS7's, and I'm very familiar with it, so it fills my needs.
When you wrote "I just wish the Core had a 3rd fx loop" I was going to mention the MS-3 but then I thought no, the MS-3 is hardly an 'experimenting tool' (vs the Core). Also, realize the 3 loops are always next to each other, cannot be placed freely/independent in the chain.
That was the only reason I sold my MS-3, the fixed order of the effects loops really reduced the usefulness of the pedal.
Something new and interesting from Boss. Its the Boss Gigcaster-8, which is a live audio streaming mixer that goes directly to YouTube, Facebook Live, Twitch, etc. Why I thought it is interesting is that it has the AIRD guitar and bass amps and effects from the GT 1000. If you’ve got a good online following, there’s going to be opportunities to play a lot more gigs through live streaming.
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Looked at the parameter guide earlier, not only does it have most of the GT-1000 stuff in it, also vocal effects from their VE-series. Also has a touch-screen interface. Looks like a great unit for content creators, and the pricing is really competitive. There's also the Gigcaster 5, which has the same engine, but with fewer I/O options.
Roland AV Pro has a live streaming video switcher called the AeroCaster. All you do is wireless connect up to 4 iPhones for video, and then have someone switching between phones as you stream the gig. Theres also an app operates on iPad for Internet connection. I’d love to see a demo of the Gigcaster and AeroCaster working together.
Well I started thinking about how I'd wire up the Core on my pedalboard with the capo given it's 2 fx loops and associated DI signals. This is where I ended up:
Bass
CAPO input
CAPO Pre loop send
Core input
<<< insert Core effects
Core loop 1 send
DRIVE PEDALS
Core loop 1 return
<<< insert Core effects
Core loop 2 send
Capo Pre loop return
CAPO preamps (A/B side)
CAPO post loop send
EAE Model FeT
Core loop 2 return
<<< insert Core effects
Core line out
CAPO post return
CAPO line out
It seems incredibly complex looking at it but this allows for the most flexible way of applying Core effects at key points in the chain. It won't allow for any streamlined control of my separate fx pedals though so I'd still have to do a lot of tap dancing to turn the Longsword off and turn on the OFF1 fuzz and octaver.
Was an interesting thought experiment though.
To really take this to the next level this setup but weaving a Morningstar ML5 so you could control additional loops via the Core to turn off individual pedals or groups of pedals. My head already hurts though so I think I'll leave it there.
Bass
CAPO input
CAPO Pre loop send
Core input
<<< insert Core effects
Core loop 1 send
DRIVE PEDALS
Core loop 1 return
<<< insert Core effects
Core loop 2 send
Capo Pre loop return
CAPO preamps (A/B side)
CAPO post loop send
EAE Model FeT
Core loop 2 return
<<< insert Core effects
Core line out
CAPO post return
CAPO line out
It seems incredibly complex looking at it but this allows for the most flexible way of applying Core effects at key points in the chain. It won't allow for any streamlined control of my separate fx pedals though so I'd still have to do a lot of tap dancing to turn the Longsword off and turn on the OFF1 fuzz and octaver.
Was an interesting thought experiment though.
To really take this to the next level this setup but weaving a Morningstar ML5 so you could control additional loops via the Core to turn off individual pedals or groups of pedals. My head already hurts though so I think I'll leave it there.
@MrDinsdale , I saw your post in the Capo thread but still cannot wrap my head around how the Core patch would look like for this setup. You put a send of the Core back into the input of the Core, would this not feedback? You have something smart going on here I just cannot visualize. Could you set up a patch with the editor or does the editor require a physical presence of the Core (I know you do not have one right now..)
I am really interested how this should work!
I am really interested how this should work!
Haha yeah it's super complex to look at, apologies for an incoming long post!
Taking it back step by step, if you ignore the Core FX loops for now:
In this setup you're essentially bypassing the CAPO preamp by passing the signal from the pre fx send to the Core and back to post fx return. The CAPO is just being used for it's clean/processed DI signals. I've labelled it using the stereo out assuming you might want IR on the R to pass back to the post DI and the L straight to your amp from the Core.
Then we introduce some analog FX into the Core via FX loop 1:
This is still a pretty standard Core patch with an FX loop if you ignore the CAPO which is still just there acting as a Pre and Post DI.
Now we bring the CAPO preamp section into the Core a little as if we were using 4CM to connect an amp:
It looks complex but actually isn't as bad as it would seem.
Your patch for the Core would be pretty straight forward, S/R block 1 would be your analog pedals and S/R block 2 would be the CAPO preamp. You could move those blocks around freely in your patch.
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