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Brett Favre Retires

#141
Teams do fine players for not reporting to camp. Since it is not a league rule, the NFL can not enforce it. There is a fine line to walk for the teams between fining a player for not reporting and letting it go. Half the time they get fined, it ends up getting written off when the guy shows up.

If you were a highly valuable employee at your job and decided to "hold out" for more money, what would you do if your employer fined you for not coming in? You'd probably go work somewhere else, which is what a player could do after sitting out for the rest of the deal or negotiating a release. Cooler heads prevail in the meantime, and the player gets what he wants. You don't have to like it, but that is the reality of the business of football.

-Mike
 
#143
Eric Perry said:
As do I, but it will never happen.
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Not to Farve.

But A less than 5 year starter? Dunno. Seems guys get canned over less.

Guys like Farve They're allowed to make a$$es of themselves, fans eat it up, in the aspect of if Farve chooses to do this year after year, the fans of whoever he plays for wil continue to be all yay:hyper: Farve's on our team.

I'd rather lose big for a few seasons with a young QB than to "almost" win year after year with a jerk.

;)

God Bless, Ray
 
#144
macaroni tony said:
So am I....I'm an Oakland fan :bawling:
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Okay nevermind then! Haha

I'm leaning towards the Jets or Broncos. Sanchez impressed the hell out of me, and I've lived in Denver. Pittsburgh is slowly turning into everything I detest about the NFL in their recruiting and retaining dirtbags, criminals, lowlifes, etc. Roethlisbrger assaults women and Reed assaults paper towel dispensers. Now we've just signed Flozell Adams, one of the biggest lowlifes in the league right now, IMO. I cannot continue to root for a team being filled with a moral vacuum.
 
#146
Eric Perry said:
Okay nevermind then! Haha

I'm leaning towards the Jets or Broncos. Sanchez impressed the hell out of me, and I've lived in Denver. Pittsburgh is slowly turning into everything I detest about the NFL in their recruiting and retaining dirtbags, criminals, lowlifes, etc. Roethlisbrger assaults women and Reed assaults paper towel dispensers. Now we've just signed Flozell Adams, one of the biggest lowlifes in the league right now, IMO. I cannot continue to root for a team being filled with a moral vacuum.
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I've always liked the Jets, and I like what I see from them with Sanchito. I guess you can say they're my secondary team.

The Roethlisberger thing is kind of funny to me in that I just see a big, awkward dork who isn't smooth with the women. And now he uses his status and money to say "OK, well, I should be able to get chicks now, right?" But on the inside, he's still a giant dork. He gets frustrated trying to bed these women, and eventually goes, "Hey, don't you know who I am, you're supposed to be givin it up!"

Well, gettin rough with the girls isn't funny. But the giant dork thing is. Anywho, my theory :)

BTW
Eric Perry said:
I cannot continue to root for a team being filled with a moral vacuum.
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Sorry to be the grammar nazi, but...oxymoron?
 
#152
MJ5150 said:
Teams do fine players for not reporting to camp. Since it is not a league rule, the NFL can not enforce it. There is a fine line to walk for the teams between fining a player for not reporting and letting it go. Half the time they get fined, it ends up getting written off when the guy shows up.

If you were a highly valuable employee at your job and decided to "hold out" for more money, what would you do if your employer fined you for not coming in? You'd probably go work somewhere else, which is what a player could do after sitting out for the rest of the deal or negotiating a release. Cooler heads prevail in the meantime, and the player gets what he wants. You don't have to like it, but that is the reality of the business of football.
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If I didn't show up to work, I'd expect to be punished, more than likely by being terminated. These guys should be no different than anyone else that works. Perhaps even held to a higher standard because they're role models to many people.

I still stand by what I said. Until they retire or are released from the team they are under a contract. They should still be fined and punished for not showing up for work. Especially, for the money these guys make.
 
#153
cassanova said:
If I didn't show up to work, I'd expect to be punished, more than likely by being terminated. These guys should be no different than anyone else that works. Perhaps even held to a higher standard because they're role models to many people.

I still stand by what I said. Until they retire or are released from the team they are under a contract. They should still be fined and punished for not showing up for work. Especially, for the money these guys make.
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They should, but the reality is these fools have the leverage. We lowly peons would get punished because we're replaceable; these d-baggy stars aren't. The teams would rather pay the star players a lot of money and have them play than to fine them and have them not play.

I hate it, too, and I'm getting tired of hearing about it. But that's the evil world we live in.
 
#154
cassanova said:
If I didn't show up to work, I'd expect to be punished, more than likely by being terminated. These guys should be no different than anyone else that works. Perhaps even held to a higher standard because they're role models to many people.
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Well, until people realize being a professional athlete is not just another job like everyone else has, there will always be this disconnect.

They are different from everyone else. When 50,000 people start paying $75 a pop to come watch me install software, then maybe I'll have a leg to stand on if I want to hold out until I get a raise. Until then, the day I hold out will be my last day for the company as my employer will let me go and hire one of the other several thousand people out there qualified to do what I do.

What are there...maybe 50 guys in the world with the skill set to be a starting QB in the NFL?

-Mike
 
#156
macaroni tony said:
They should, but the reality is these fools have the leverage. We lowly peons would get punished because we're replaceable; these d-baggy stars aren't. The teams would rather pay the star players a lot of money and have them play than to fine them and have them not play.

I hate it, too, and I'm getting tired of hearing about it. But that's the evil world we live in.
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IMO, it's only allowed because we (the fans)tolerate it. We pay the outlandish prices to see the games, buy the merchandise, etc. If people were to suddenly say f*** you, and stop spending money on the NFL then, I'd be willing to bet things would change. The general public needs to quit buying into the bull crap that these guys are larger than life because they can throw and catch a ball.


MJ5150 said:
Well, until people realize being a professional athlete is not just another job like everyone else has, there will always be this disconnect.

They are different from everyone else. When 50,000 people start paying $75 a pop to come watch me install software, then maybe I'll have a leg to stand on if I want to hold out until I get a raise. Until then, the day I hold out will be my last day for the company as my employer will let me go and hire one of the other several thousand people out there qualified to do what I do.
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I'm sorry, but I disagree. They are no different than you or me, they just have a different skill set. As I said above, the general public is at least partially to blame for this. Stop spending the money on these douche bags and things will change.
 
#158
cassanova said:
IMO, it's only allowed because we (the fans)tolerate it. We pay the outlandish prices to see the games, buy the merchandise, etc. If people were to suddenly say f*** you, and stop spending money on the NFL then, I'd be willing to bet things would change. The general public needs to quit buying into the bull crap that these guys are larger than life because they can throw and catch a ball.




I'm sorry, but I disagree. They are no different than you or me, they just have a different skill set. As I said above, the general public is at least partially to blame for this. Stop spending the money on these douche bags and things will change.
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Right ON!

Remember when Pizza Hut cost $20 for one pizza?

Now they're scrambling to sell 'em for $10.

All in the aspect of supply and demand.

We dig the game of football and the camaraderie of watching it together.

BUT If we refused to pay more than $25 per ticket, things'd change or game over.

Same goes with Farve, if the fans stood up to his BS, and ALL THE OTHER JERKWADS who are ALLOWED TO PLAY NFL FOOTBALL. Things'd be different.

If my job is to sell, and I carry the classic "I'm above you" attitude, guess what, I bet I won't sell near as much.

Case Closed

:D

God Bless, Ray
 
#159
cassanova said:
I'm sorry, but I disagree. They are no different than you or me, they just have a different skill set.
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Well sure, at a molecular level professional athletes are just the same as everyone else.

But the fact is they are unique in the sense that a very small percentage of other human beings can perform a sport at the same level they can. For example, only 32 (.0000005%) humans on earth are starting NFL QB's. Only a slightly larger percentage even have the skills to do so. By comparison, there are over 15,000,000 (.2142857142857143%) people on this earth qualified to do what I do.

-Mike
 

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