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Bugera Veyron BV1001M gig review

#81
On yesterday's outdoor shows, I played through an EDEN 210XST (8 ohm) and an AGUILAR GS 115 (8 ohm). I know that there is a sharp division between opinions on mixing of cabs. I DO have another EDEN 210XST (8 ohm) that I sometimes use to give me 4-10's. However, this combination (maybe the particular brand of cabs?) work really well together. As I stated in the previous posting.....as a reference, I played the first 1 hour show with my EDEN WT800 in bridged mode (1100 watts into 4 ohms) I have the tone controls flat or within 1 or 2 clicks to the right of center and the enhance at about 10:00. The 2nd and 3rd shows I played yesterday, I used the BURGERA VEYRON M. To come very close to the EDEN sound, I had the 15db pad pushed, my gain at about 1 o'clock. (I was playing an Fender AM Deluxe J Bass -5 string and the new Sire Marcus Miller v7 basses)... The ultra low switch depressed, bass at about 2'oclock, mid at about 11 o'clock position and the treble at about 12 o'clock position. I did NOT have the ultra high button depressed and finally.....The Master at about 10 o'clock position. It was equal or greater volume without compression, to my EDEN WT800 volume at similar position on gain and master. I COULD HAVE turned the master higher and gotten louder, but I was already as loud as I play for outdoor shows (pretty loud)...Now keep in mind, the show I was playing is a BEACH BOY TRIBUTE band and not heavy metal, etc... I work with several bands in the Phoenix area, but this one gets the most bookings. I have a church gig this morning and it is low to moderate volume playing levels. I keep a bass rig at the church (EDEN 410 cab and EDEN WT400) the cabinet is an 8 ohm, so ANY amplifier will only give about 50% of it's potential output due to a higher impedance load. It will be interesting to hear how it sounds in this different setting today. So far, I have given my thumbs up to another bass player in the Phoenix area that was about to buy a CARVIN BX1500 that will cost a slight bit more, and he has now decided to get the BUGERA. I guess he respects my opinion :bassist: BTW, I ALSO have a CARVIN BX1500 and it really is a great amp too. (Along with my other 4 EDEN amps.....I must see a psychiatrist about this problem!)
 
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Besides that the compressor is "useable", does it color the tone in a good or bad way? Does it remains subtle when maxed out or does it provide aggressive of squashed compression? Also, what happens when you run the pre hot, does the Veyron M get any gritty, distorts etc. and if so it is a "musical" way?

Thanks!
 
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I don't user the compressor on mine at this time, but I did not notice any change in tone during the times that I was just playing with the knobs and settings getting to know the amp.

I have been setting my master volume and then compensating for the output of the different basses by changing gain. For example, I have to run the gain much hotter for my Cabronita bass than I do for my Fender P bass with Active Barts (The Mutt) or the Squier VM Precision with the super hot Duncan Designed pickups (The Hot Blonde) I find that the amp stays pretty clean.
 
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TricksteR said:
Great- I'm curious about it's capacity to add some grit to the sound. Maybe the tube pre-amp version will be better suited to break in a pleasing way- we'll need to wait until someone tries the "T" out!
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A couple of people have had both models at the same time and performed a direct comparison. What I gathered from what they had to say was that the T is pretty clean sounding as well but warmer. So, I think what BassikLee said still stands. If you want dirt, add it....

You can check this thread and search for posts by Lindex or disssa.......

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#89
OK...here is MY report on trying to get a "crunch" out of the Veyron M. DON'T !! Not a pretty sound! When you overdrive the front end, it is a very cheap buzzy sound (reminds me of the fuzz boxes in the 1970's) and the buzz portion of the sound quickly dies while the rest of the note continues (as soon as your input level has died down to normal levels). It is possible that the tube version, Veyron T, might have more of a chance of getting the sound you are looking for. The preamp tubes should have a smoother distortion when over-driving the front end. What this amp does, in spades, is produce a great deal of clean power and decent flexibility on tone adjustments. Coming from a gazillion years of using EDEN gear (and still do), I am looking for the "Hi-Fi" sound. More like listening to a playback of your bass in a recording studio with a good audio system. As others have said, if you want GRIT......ADD grit through a pedal, etc. or get the TUBE version of the Veyron amp. I am one of those that had my "nose in the air" regarding Behringer made equipment. To me, it was the modern day version of the older PEAVEY equipment minus the dependability. Well, this adventure has made a convert out of me. I have only used the amp on 3 gigs so far. 1 of them was an outdoor concert at high volume and I thought that it would be the ACID test. I had my EDEN WORLD TOUR 800C standing by ready to take over (1100 watts), but never needed to do that. At a church gig, the amp is super quiet (really low fan sound) and no hum or hiss that is audible without putting your ear right at the speaker grille.
 
#90
Excellent information--thanks. Now I just have to wait for MusiciansFriend to put this amp on their stupid deal of the day! (Yesterday they had a Bugera tube guitar amp for something like 1/3 of the normal street price.) It may take a while but I don't need another amp. ;)
 
#92
road-cat1 said:
OK...here is MY report on trying to get a "crunch" out of the Veyron M. DON'T !! Not a pretty sound! When you overdrive the front end, it is a very cheap buzzy sound (reminds me of the fuzz boxes in the 1970's) and the buzz portion of the sound quickly dies while the rest of the note continues (as soon as your input level has died down to normal levels). It is possible that the tube version, Veyron T, might have more of a chance of getting the sound you are looking for. The preamp tubes should have a smoother distortion when over-driving the front end. What this amp does, in spades, is produce a great deal of clean power and decent flexibility on tone adjustments. Coming from a gazillion years of using EDEN gear (and still do), I am looking for the "Hi-Fi" sound. More like listening to a playback of your bass in a recording studio with a good audio system. As others have said, if you want GRIT......ADD grit through a pedal, etc. or get the TUBE version of the Veyron amp. I am one of those that had my "nose in the air" regarding Behringer made equipment. To me, it was the modern day version of the older PEAVEY equipment minus the dependability. Well, this adventure has made a convert out of me. I have only used the amp on 3 gigs so far. 1 of them was an outdoor concert at high volume and I thought that it would be the ACID test. I had my EDEN WORLD TOUR 800C standing by ready to take over (1100 watts), but never needed to do that. At a church gig, the amp is super quiet (really low fan sound) and no hum or hiss that is audible without putting your ear right at the speaker grille.
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Thanks for giving it a try! was curious about it. We'll see what the T version can do when someone can report on it. If it is similar to the streamliner as previously reported, maybe there can be some nice fuzz to be had. I know I can add it using a pedal or a sansamp, but there are a few feature that I like to be on board such as a good musical grit & compression. I loved the svt-7 pro for this- it was perfect power, feature & sound wise, but it died on me after persisting cutting out problems (sounds like deja vu!) and just decided to go another way.
 
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I also had tried to get some grid from the tube Veyron and didn't like the result.
First, you had to push it even more to break up, it stays clean almost all the way up the gain stage and second to my ears it sounded like an old man's fart.
And I know how that sounds (and smells...) like, as I experience that every morning when I get up... :D

No, if you want nice creamy distortion from your amp without a stompbox, forget the Veyrons.
They seem to be designed to be clean.
Get something like a Fender Bassman, maybe.
Loved the sound of that one but it's not really a lightweight class D amp... ;)
 
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Lindex said:
I also had tried to get some grid from the tube Veyron and didn't like the result.
First, you had to push it even more to break up, it stays clean almost all the way up the gain stage and second to my ears it sounded like an old man's fart.
And I know how that sounds (and smells...) like, as I experience that every morning when I get up... :D

No, if you want nice creamy distortion from your amp without a stompbox, forget the Veyrons.
They seem to be designed to be clean.
Get something like a Fender Bassman, maybe.
Loved the sound of that one but it's not really a lightweight class D amp... ;)
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Thanks Lindex, most helpful... but unfortunate as it is not exactly the type of sound I'm looking for.. Too bad since the price-power-features are hard to beat... and I would like to like it as it looks soooooo nice too :P

I already have a DB800h that has grit to spare in the heavyweight category, I am looking for a lightweight counterpart.

Cheers
 
#95
On the outdoor show I played, I had 2 cabs stacked. 1 Aguilar 1-15 (8 ohm) on bottom and EDEN 210XST (8 ohm) on top. I know that many guys don't like mixing cabs, but I find that I like the sound of this setup a lot. Next gig I used an EDEN 410 bottom ...usually use an EDEN WT 400 plus, but substituted the VEYRON M with great results. I DO have 2 EDEN 210XST cabs and sometimes stack them to get 4-10s working at a total of 4 ohms. Depends on the gig.
 
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Played a real boomy room list night, and was using two Thunderbird basses. Actually used the compressor to help tame some of the boom and that with a little EQ solved the issue. I really dislike where the band has to setup in the club we were at because of the boomy-ness and it makes our stage volume seem much louder than it actually is. No coloring of the tone from the compressor, it was pretty transparent, and again the amp was flawless and never got warm.

This coming Friday we are paying an outdoor show, not sure how big the place is but I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Word of mouth is probably the best advertising they could ask for. I told a bass player buddy (locally) about the amp. I know that he respects my judgement and the fact that I am very picky about my sound. He scoured around and found a store in Mesa, AZ that had 2 of them arrive that day in their deliveries. The store sales rep said that they have only received a few of them recently and they go out the door within 1-2 days. My buddy, without ever hearing the amp or even trying one in the store, went in and bought one.
 
#98
OK.....next topic for THIS amp. What are we carrying it in. I found a LENOVO computer (shoulder and handle) bag that fits it perfectly. I believe it is the 15.4 size. I paid $29 but noticed that it went up to about $34 now.
Lenovo Max Messenger Notebook Carrying Case - 15.4":Amazon:Electronics

Note that there is a zippered pocket in front as well as an inch or so on the side of the amp, if you really needed to stuff a cable in there, etc..
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If you use this bag, I suggest placing the amp inside the bag with the control panel facing up. You don't want to take a chance of hitting or damaging the front knobs when you place the bag on the ground as you see in my last post.
 

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