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Bugera Veyron Now Available

#23
Justice said:
Well, my wife just called and said that Sweetwater called to tell me that it was not in stock, and they should have some later this month. :( So either they jumped the gun and listed it early, or they all sold out before my order was complete. So I probably will not have it in time for the next gig.
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Bummer. A common experience with Sweetwater, I think. Definitely has happened to me.
 
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well another update :bassist: Just talked to Sweetwater and my amp has shipped. And apparently they are sold out of the Mosfet version already. The site still lists the tube preamp version as in stock, but the Mosfet is listed as "coming soon" . I have a tracking number so hopefully i'll see some tracking info soon and have the amp in time for my next gig.
 
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Not a huge Behringer fan. Many years ago my band bought one of their mixers. Looked nice, great price, but over time it just started to fall apart. It wasn't abused in any was and lived in a case that cost more than it did. As time went on I learned more about the company and just started to dislike them. It goes without saying that reliability is number one, once you find equipment you like, you need to know it's going to work every time. That being said, I really like the styling of this head. Maybe they're attempting to up their creditability with a nicely styled head with a long warranty. The 2,000 watts undermines this IMHO.
 
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Spent said:
... The 2,000 watts undermines this IMHO.
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There are many lightweight power amplifiers that boast 2000+ Watts per channel. It's not a stretch to imagine putting 1/2 of one into a Chassis alone with a pre-amp.

Other benchtests of "Behringer" amps have shows the meet advertised power. (as compared with other amplifier makers)

It's going to be a while, before someone with the capability bench tests this. We'll see.
 
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I have two Behringer Hartke clone 1x15 cabs that are rated at 600W each. I took this for total B.S., but years of hammering them with 800W-1100W amps have proven them to be more than capable of handling their rated power on a continuous basis. I got them for a steal, fully expecting to blow the bugera-branded drivers and replace them with something better. I've had them for almost 8 years with no issues.

So, not all of their ratings are total b.s. - and they're far from being the only manufacturer to inflate specs.

I don't agree with a lot of their business practices, but I own and use a variety of their products (mixers, USB interface, microphones, cabs, pedals, near-field monitors, etc) and I've never had any of it die on me.
 
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Uli came by and announced that it was rated by their own method that appears to be 'burst' rated. Similar to what others have been doing recently...like the Peavey IPR series. But lets be honest, with the standard US wall voltage things in the 2000-3000w are not necessarily all that accurate. I often call my IPR3K a 2000-ish watt amp.

I also applaud the Peavey people with the new Mini Mega for calling it a 1000w amp based upon rms ratings.
 
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BurningSkies said:
Uli came by and announced that it was rated by their own method that appears to be 'burst' rated. Similar to what others have been doing recently...like the Peavey IPR series. But lets be honest, with the standard US wall voltage things in the 2000-3000w are not necessarily all that accurate. I often call my IPR3K a 2000-ish watt amp.

I also applaud the Peavey people with the new Mini Mega for calling it a 1000w amp based upon rms ratings.
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I had a long conversation with some Peavey people about this - they're trying hard to honest with their ratings, but they're getting stung by everyone else and their so-called 2000W amps. They're trying to do the right thing with their specification lists, but it's making it look like their amps are 'weak' in comparison. It's a huge problem in the industry, and there needs to be a better standard - or at least a campaign to educate musicians about the dubious nature of these power ratings.
 
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The_Janitor said:
I had a long conversation with some Peavey people about this - they're trying hard to honest with their ratings, but they're getting stung by everyone else and their so-called 2000W amps. They're trying to do the right thing with their specification lists, but it's making it look like their amps are 'weak' in comparison. It's a huge problem in the industry, and there needs to be a better standard - or at least a campaign to educate musicians about the dubious nature of these power ratings.
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That's no surprise. But it's tough for me to say that 'others are lying about specs, so it's ok for them to do it too'. What would be good? Give both numbers. Burst @ 2000w, RMS @1200w.
 
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seamonkey said:
There are many lightweight power amplifiers that boast 2000+ Watts per channel. It's not a stretch to imagine putting 1/2 of one into a Chassis alone with a pre-amp.

Other benchtests of "Behringer" amps have shows the meet advertised power. (as compared with other amplifier makers)

It's going to be a while, before someone with the capability bench tests this. We'll see.
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Yeah, I'm trying not to be too judgemental, but the mixer experience really jaded me to Behringer. In reality, the 2,000 watt claim may backfire. When I first started playing bass, it was all about power. As I matured as a player, tone, punch, etc. became far make important. It didn't take long to realize that watts means very little. This may appeal to entry level players more than the more seasoned ones. Still, I like the style. It is reminiscent of the Genz-Benz Streamliner, as other have pointed out, but it does have its own look. In the end, it'll come down to the sound.
 
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Spent said:
Yeah, I'm trying not to be too judgemental, but the mixer experience really jaded me to Behringer. In reality, the 2,000 watt claim may backfire. When I first started playing bass, it was all about power. As I matured as a player, tone, punch, etc. became far make important. It didn't take long to realize that watts means very little. This may appeal to entry level players more than the more seasoned ones. Still, I like the style. It is reminiscent of the Genz-Benz Streamliner, as other have pointed out, but it does have its own look. In the end, it'll come down to the sound.
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Some amps seem to do well, even though they appear to be underpowered in specs. ; ) Like the SVT.
 
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More than once I've built up a clever marketing campaign in my own head because the list of features was so perfect and the form so sexy - I wanted it to be true! Then $499 later my new toy sounds like... like $295 resale less the shipping and subsequent PayPal fees.

But this is one man's story. x10. Carry on!
 
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The_Janitor said:
I have two Behringer Hartke clone 1x15 cabs that are rated at 600W each. I took this for total B.S., but years of hammering them with 800W-1100W amps have proven them to be more than capable of handling their rated power on a continuous basis. I got them for a steal, fully expecting to blow the bugera-branded drivers and replace them with something better. I've had them for almost 8 years with no issues.

So, not all of their ratings are total b.s. - and they're far from being the only manufacturer to inflate specs.

I don't agree with a lot of their business practices, but I own and use a variety of their products (mixers, USB interface, microphones, cabs, pedals, near-field monitors, etc) and I've never had any of it die on me.
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While I have been using an Acoustic 2x15 for my last few gigs, I also have the paper coned Behringer bass cabs. The BB115 and the BB210. When I would go single cab I only used the BB115. I powered them with a Behringer Ep1500 (bridged) and later with my current amp (Crown XLS1000 Drivecore-also bridged - switched for the major reduction in weight) Never had an issue with the Behringer cabs not being able to handle the power from either amp. In fact I think the Crown will give out before the cabs.

I'm hoping that later this year when i get into my new house and can actually have a workshop to do some building, I can build a high powered, lightweight 4ohm 2x12 to use for gigging.
 

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