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Cabinet Stand

Speaking of deep thoughts: the problem with a tilt back stand is that you are once again stuck looking for a place to put your beer. It looks like OP's crafty frame could solve that problem. Probably wouldn't be an issue with church or pit gigs.

This is definitely a very important problem! The frame on the top holds the amp, so there's no beer spot there. Fortunately I am also the sound guy for the band, so I put my beer on the table next to the mixing board.
 
Another deep thought. I guess that's what I would expect from a bass forum. Thanks.
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So much for a welcoming forum....
With all due respect. It seems that you fired the first volley by attempting to diminish other's comments; calling them "inane."

At least some of the other dissenting views included the conditions of their tests, and stated that they were empirical. Doing such at least lends some credence to the person making the argument, even if other's question the methods. If we know the conditions of the test and know they are repeatable, it brings at least a modicum of validity to the argument.

I don't think it serves any purpose to label someone else's opinions or comments because it was not what you were looking for. More succinct answers often come from well defined questions.

Let's return to your original question. Please note that it is two questions somewhat nested and that may open the door for answers to also not be what is hoped for.

"Does anybody use amp stands for bass or was it a fad that ran its course?"

Now I dare to restate for clarity purposes and hope the repercussions are not to terrible for my attempt.

Q1) Does anyone use amp stands for bass?
Q2) Are amp stands for bass a fad that has run it's course?

Please discuss, with discord if necessary, but also with respect.

Thank you.
 
Most frequency response measurements are pegged to the level at 1 kHz. I can believe that by tilting a cabinet, you’d get 10 dB more 1 kHz at the mic position. That would LOOK like you had 10 dB less at low frequencies.

Measuring frequency response in a room and having the results be meaningful is not something you can do without a lot of knowledge on the subject. I’ve got 45 years of that, enough to know that what you’re saying doesn’t add up.

An observation: Who on here, or what bass player do any of us know, other than some truly anal retentive maniac that measures Db and/or has a spectrum analyzer to use at soundcheck, to play at The Fight Every Night pub? I don't know anyone who does that. This is what most of us do. We set up the rig. We play a few notes to make sure it's working correctly, we gauge the 'boom' and 'deadness' of the room, and when the other musicians are ready to check, we do one- of all kinds of varying lengths. With pro sound, or self-mixing. Sometimes, we need bass in the house monitors. Other times- we need to disconnect one of our typical two cabs- if applicable.
The thing is- even if you were to do all that analysis, when the room fills up with clothed Humans, the sound totally changes. Those here with lots of gig experience in all types of venues will understand this.
Even with all these variables- does any bass player here think people give a crap whether you're playing a P-bass, a J-bass, or can hear the difference between rounds and flats? The audience is absolutely ignorant of our priorities, and truly, why should they care? They want to drink and get laid.
 
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Out of curiosity I decided to try out using a cabinet stand at a gig last night. I perform with an Aguilar GS112 and Fender Jazz with tone and volume maxed and nickel roundwounds and no FOH sound. I made a quick plywood mock up prototype fashioned after the Atlas Low Rider stand. I set the angle at 30 degrees based on my proximity to the cab while performing. I figured I'd try it as a means of managing my volume by directing as much sound as possible to my ears rather than my feet.

As I expected I found that I didn't like my tone as much, it had lots more mids than usual. I am aware of how higher frequencies are more directional. I compensated slightly by EQing up the bass and it sounded OK although I probably should have dropped the mids instead. Here is my question.

Does anybody use amp stands for bass or was it a fad that ran its course?

I'm considering using this setup for pit orchestra work where I have to keep my volume WAAAY down.

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Nice. A can of black spray paint away from "pro".
 
Out of curiosity I decided to try out using a cabinet stand at a gig last night. I perform with an Aguilar GS112 and Fender Jazz with tone and volume maxed and nickel roundwounds and no FOH sound. I made a quick plywood mock up prototype fashioned after the Atlas Low Rider stand. I set the angle at 30 degrees based on my proximity to the cab while performing. I figured I'd try it as a means of managing my volume by directing as much sound as possible to my ears rather than my feet.

As I expected I found that I didn't like my tone as much, it had lots more mids than usual. I am aware of how higher frequencies are more directional. I compensated slightly by EQing up the bass and it sounded OK although I probably should have dropped the mids instead. Here is my question.

Does anybody use amp stands for bass or was it a fad that ran its course?

I'm considering using this setup for pit orchestra work where I have to keep my volume WAAAY down.

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I use an amp stand like the one below. Got it from Musician's Friend for $39.99.The angle is pre-set at 45° and can't be adjusted but it can be adjusted a lot for height. It'll hold 150-lbs and I use it for my DNS-210 cab by DNA, which weighs 52-lbs. It's as solid as a rock yet folds up for transport. It works great. I use my 210 with that stand for all my indoor venues and then use my DNS-410 (which I bought first back in 2010) for outdoor venues and music festivals.

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I’ve been using a cab stand in my gigs since last year… It totally improved how I heard myself on stage, my sound projection and -I like to think that- my playing, too… and band mates told me they can heard -and feel- the bass much better.
I use a Gator GWR-GTF stand, which folds almost flat, can hold more than 150 lbs, and can be adjusted in various inclinations levels with no chance for the can to fall or lose orientation
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I did hear a different tone when I elevated my cabinet. But it was only because it was nearer to my ear and more realistic to what my tone really sounded like without the colored low end from hearing the knee level tone. I EQd much differently after that and now I’m a bit more sure what my tone really sounds like.
 
Thanks! I've very much appreciated the knowledge here. Perhaps I was mistaken, but I found the argument over whether user Akiyama's data was valid to be more of a pissing contest rather than an actual discussion that related to my original question. I also found the actions of certain users to be offensive and somewhat rude. I accept that I am not the owner of the thread and I apologize for interjecting and will refrain from doing so again.
Lighten up, Francis. That was a very relevant point, and there was no pissing contest except in your head. If you want to get something out of a thread you started, maybe do more reading and less complaining.
 
Out of curiosity I decided to try out using a cabinet stand at a gig last night. I perform with an Aguilar GS112 and Fender Jazz with tone and volume maxed and nickel roundwounds and no FOH sound. I made a quick plywood mock up prototype fashioned after the Atlas Low Rider stand. I set the angle at 30 degrees based on my proximity to the cab while performing. I figured I'd try it as a means of managing my volume by directing as much sound as possible to my ears rather than my feet.

As I expected I found that I didn't like my tone as much, it had lots more mids than usual. I am aware of how higher frequencies are more directional. I compensated slightly by EQing up the bass and it sounded OK although I probably should have dropped the mids instead. Here is my question.

Does anybody use amp stands for bass or was it a fad that ran its course?

I'm considering using this setup for pit orchestra work where I have to keep my volume WAAAY down.

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I use a home made stand not too dissimilar from yours but mine is hinged and collapses flat for transport. I use it at home and at gigs and I like it. It does point the mids and highs directly at your head but I know from practice at home that there is no loss of low frequencies. All I have to do at home is sit on the couch when I practice and the lows are all there but the higher frequencies go over my head.
 
I recently returned an Boss amp stand. The build of the stand was great. But, I measured a 10 dB drop for frequencies under 80 Hz when on the stand vs. on the floor in a 12 x 12 foot room. I figure I need to hear bass if I am playing a bass guitar. I returned that stand as I am not actively gigging. I am working out better solutions to get rid of some wonky resonances I experience in the room for recording/studio/practice. The stand got rid of the resonances. That is one plus.
Agreed I don't like the loss of thickness and bottom end I use this On-Stage RS100 Amp Tilt System only $10 bucks at Sweetwater and works great.
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