Cabinet Stand

[lark_z]

I'd like to see a picture of that stand you made without the cab on it. Looks sweet.

I've been using a wood scrap that I painted black. I had to buy some 'no-slide-y' pads to put on the bottom of my head to keep it in place. Jammed under the front of the cab, it really helps in my buddies dead-dead music room.

 

[Luckydog]

Agreed I don't like the loss of thickness and bottom end I use this On-Stage RS100 Amp Tilt System only $10 bucks at Sweetwater and works great.View attachment 4967666

Brocco, is that a BA210-3 SLT? If so, have you noticed much difference (out front) with dispersion with the cab on its side vs flat? Seems that on its side, the array will disperse the highs/high mids toward the ceiling and floor, rather than horizontally. What has been your experience with how sideways orientation of the cab sounds (out front)?

 

[StereoPlayer]

Join forum
Posts question with clear confirmation bias.
Gets good answers from knowledgeable members with a proven track record and many good posts
Berates said forum members and starts whining about the community.

Troll alert.

I'm perplexed by this thread. It seems the op has been a member since May of 2022...

 

[jnewmark]

I'm perplexed by this thread. It seems the op has been a member since May of 2022...

His first post was Jan. 16 of this year.

 

[staccatogrowl]

Does anybody use amp stands for bass or was it a fad that ran its course?

I use a milk crate, with a couple jugs of milk in front if I need tilt back.

If so, I use unpasteurized whole milk for extra creamy tone.

A lot of cats dig my tone, and it's a proven, timeless solution.

 

[TomB]

Welcome to the forum!
What made you feel unwelcome? People discussing a point that very much has bearing on your question? Or someone not taking your direction to exit the thread?
Once a thread is posted, it is no longer "the poster's" thread, and "get out of my thread" doesn't fly here.
It is a place to get a lot of good and helpful (and sometimes not so good and helpful) information, though

We've all installed cup holders on our mic stands...just below our smart devices.

Riis

The smart device above my cup holder is the singer …oh, …wait,

 

[Altitude]

I used to run 4x10 cabinets and I set them on this onstage stand. It worked a charm, any loss in low end was offset by being able to hear myself a lot better. Also, there's a bass knob in the EQ.

This is an old pic, maybe 15 years ago. Since, I've moved to stacked 112s or 210s that accomplish the same outcome differently. Or IEM gigs with no cabinet at all.

But the onstage stand worked well and is still sitting in my garage. If anyone is in Denver and wants it let me know.

 

[Michedelic]

I can do without the drinking.

 

[micguy]

Speaking of deep thoughts: the problem with a tilt back stand is that you are once again stuck looking for a place to put your beer. It looks like OP's crafty frame could solve that problem. Probably wouldn't be an issue with church or pit gigs.

You have forgotten the issue of the little plastic shot glass of cranberry juice.

 

[micguy]

No position on the science here, but I enjoy a little practical boundary effect.

"Boundary effect" is a directional phenomenon - if you raise your cabinet to where the woofer's center is 41 inches above the floor (a quarter wavelength at 80 Hz), then in the vertical plane (if you ears are directly above the cabinet) you will have a null - that frequency will be diminished quite a bit (not completely, though) to your ears. To null 41 Hz, you'd need the woofer to be at 80 inches (above your head). You'd have to be about 15 feet tall to get you ears to where you could hear that null.

In the horizontal plane, however (you audience is in front of or to the side of your cabinet) the reflection off the floor will be in phase (time aligned) with the direct sound, to where that frequency (and indeed everything below it) will be reinforced.

You don't lose low end in the audience by raising your cabinet, and it doesn't happen to your ears until you raise the cabinet by quite a bit.

 

[Marko 1]

Troll alert.

After he dissed DJBebop I had a word for him...

let's just say "troll" was very kind by comparison.

 

[brocco]

Brocco, is that a BA210-3 SLT? If so, have you noticed much difference (out front) with dispersion with the cab on its side vs flat? Seems that on its side, the array will disperse the highs/high mids toward the ceiling and floor, rather than horizontally. What has been your experience with how sideways orientation of the cab sounds (out front)?

It seems to focus the sound right in front directly to me and that is what I want, as my drummer doesn't like the bleed over and he can isolate me through his in ears. I can keep my stage volume down and my bandmates can put me in their monitors if needed. Plus I am always in the FOH.

 

[Luckydog]

It seems to focus the sound right in front directly to me and that is what I want, as my drummer doesn't like the bleed over and he can isolate me through his in ears. I can keep my stage volume down and my bandmates can put me in their monitors if needed. Plus I am always in the FOH.

Thanks Brocco. I have a pair of BA210-3 SLT and only used both one time so far. The 8 or so times I have used a single, I only oriented it sideways for one gig, which I never really stepped out very far to hear. In my case, our drummer wants to hear more of me during the occasional times he isnt using in-ears. I just wondered if the horizontal dispersion of the cab really benefitted him. Im normally in FOH, unless its a very small venue.

 

[Jeff Scott]

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I hope that's not a come-on!

 

[StereoPlayer]

This is a strange thread.

 

[JimmyM]

An observation: Who on here, or what bass player do any of us know, other than some truly anal retentive maniac that measures Db and/or has a spectrum analyzer to use at soundcheck, to play at The Fight Every Night pub? I don't know anyone who does that. This is what most of us do. We set up the rig. We play a few notes to make sure it's working correctly, we gauge the 'boom' and 'deadness' of the room, and when the other musicians are ready to check, we do one- of all kinds of varying lengths. With pro sound, or self-mixing. Sometimes, we need bass in the house monitors. Other times- we need to disconnect one of our typical two cabs- if applicable.
The thing is- even if you were to do all that analysis, when the room fills up with clothed Humans, the sound totally changes. Those here with lots of gig experience in all types of venues will understand this.
Even with all these variables- does any bass player here think people give a crap whether you're playing a P-bass, a J-bass, or can hear the difference between rounds and flats? The audience is absolutely ignorant of our priorities, and truly, why should they care? They want to drink and get laid.

What are you saying? That we shouldn’t care about our sound?

 

[jnewmark]

What are you saying? That we shouldn’t care about our sound?

He lost me after "truly anal retentive maniac".

 

[DJ Bebop]

He lost me after "truly anal retentive maniac".

Did I hear somebody calling my name?

 

[Michedelic]

I hope that's not a come-on!

Purely rhetorical. There are certain truths in life…

 

[ecolbeck]

I'd like to see a picture of that stand you made without the cab on it. Looks sweet.

I've been using a wood scrap that I painted black. I had to buy some 'no-slide-y' pads to put on the bottom of my head to keep it in place. Jammed under the front of the cab, it really helps in my buddies dead-dead music room.
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I appreciate the kind words. In the picture below, the cabinet stand is on the left. I made it reversible. If the cab sits facing right it has a 30 degree tilt. If it faces left it has a 60 degree tilt. The stands for the head are on the right. The middle one is for 60 degree tilt and the right one is for 30 degree tilt.

As I mentioned previously, I got the inspiration from Atlas Stands. They make really nice stuff. These are just mock-ups I made from plywood scraps I had lying around.
I tried the 30 degree tilt the other night with my cover band and I intend to try the 60 degree tilt with the pit orchestra at rehearsal tonight. The idea behind the 60 degree tilt is that I can have the cab right next to my chair. I have no idea what the outcome will be, as I mentioned before, this is just in the spirit of experimentation.