Can we please stop using "guitard"?

[matt holt]

Well then they aren't guitards. What I find offensive is someone trying to modify my behavior by telling me what I can or cannot say, enough of the pc crap. You are implying that it's used to specifically degrade those who are disabled. A little insensitive to them, sure, while we're at it lets ban the use of the word stupid as it's degrading to anyone with low intelligence. And I find your use of the term douche bag offensive to women as it refers to a necessary hygienic practice.



Those "some folks" you refer to are basstards

A quick note, the OP did not "tell" anyone to stop saying anything. The title of the thread is "Can we Please Stop...". It's a request, and a reasonable one; he even said please

 

[Chris 'Wighat' Jordan]

I give ID 10 years before it gets deemed offensive and the intelligence experts scramble to find a replacement. Once you get on the euphemism treadmill, you can never get off. I'm also wondering how long it will be before we run out of socially acceptable terms and go back to using idiot, imbecile, and moron. It's interesting how those words aren't targeted as being hurtful as often as ******** is, even though all were clinically descriptive terms at one time. Is it because they're so old, and if so, will there be a time when ******** attains the same status they currently have?

I've been teaching for almost 20 years and every time I cover intelligence in introductory psychology, I ask the students what words they use to convey that someone is doing something they view as not very bright. I hear new terms just about every year, but the one constant is that they all have something to do with ID. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I agree. "Idiot" is not hurtful these days (beyond to the person whom we call one) because we only use it to insult someone in reaction them something undesirable.

"*etard" is hurtful because it IS (or at least has recently been) used in reference to people with intellectual disabilities.

 

[chicago_mike]

Honest question. Where does it stop?

Right now theres a thread with the word IDIOT in the main title. that word has definition beyond the insult slang. what if I was an idiot and found that offensive? I might be, but I don't.

 

[eadg98005]

The Washington Redskins (uhh, can I still still say that?) are facing a name change...I'm sure the Chicago Blackhawks will have to change their name and rid themselves of that vile, offensive team logo as well because eventually EVERYTHING will be found to have something offensive in it to someone and therefore the world must get rid of it forever.

Dirt is an offensive term to clean. Try getting rid of it. The planet is made of it.

Exactly....

 

[chicago_mike]

Exactly....

Blackhawks better NOT change their name!

 

[JimmyM]

or careless. Or "complain" about a particular word used on an Internet forum.

And only you can prevent yourself from judging

Who says I want to prevent myself from judging?

 

[JimmyM]

You go right ahead and ignore whatever you want that is your perspective. I will go ahead and voice my opinion. That is the funny thing about the anti-PC crowd their argument is basically saying "stop voicing your opinion"

Yep.

 

[godblender]

The Washington Redskins (uhh, can I still still say that?) are facing a name change...I'm sure the Chicago Blackhawks will have to change their name and rid themselves of that vile, offensive team logo as well because eventually EVERYTHING will be found to have something offensive in it to someone and therefore the world must get rid of it forever.

Dirt is an offensive term to clean. Try getting rid of it. The planet is made of it.

I think that the real issue may be alluding you. The word "clean" cannot take offense but people can. Some people feel insulted by certain language or words and it doesn't really matter that you or I don't find it offensive.

 

[chicago_mike]

Stop voicing your opinion and trying to make a law that forces me to change my life to fit YOURS...thats what we "anti-pc" people are saying. Fundamentally.

We can differentiate between someone who is truly handicapped and a guitard.

 

[MegaSwing]

I think political correctness is self-enforcing. If a term or phrase becomes widely regarded as inflammatory, and you insist on continuing to use it, prepare for the consequences. You will lose out on opportunities. In the end, like it or not, you will pay. If that's cool with you, carry on, but understand why.

The fact is that we are social beings and do not live alone in the world.

 

[JimmyM]

But why does it have to go beyond being offended and judging people?

What I don't like is someone who wants to punish people in the name of protecting other people from words. I'm thinking specifically about the incident a few years back when a woman at a tech convention overheard two guys privately joking about a "dongle" and they lost their jobs. I've heard that referred to as "vindictive protectiveness." IMO that crosses the line. A guy has to worry about feeding his kids because he joked about a dongle. IMO the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Send the guy to sensitive training. Make him write a public apology. Something more in line with the offense.

I don't know anything about this situation, so I can't comment. What I DO know, though, is that businesses have every right to s-can someone who makes themselves a liability to the business of the company.

 

[JimmyM]

Stop voicing your opinion and trying to make a law that forces me to change my life to fit YOURS...thats what we "anti-pc" people are saying. Fundamentally.

You have no right to tell anyone to stop voicing their opinion. None whatsoever.

 

[10cc]

Who says I want to prevent myself from judging?

Well I'm not gonna tell you not to.

 

[Smooth_bass88]

I only play with really really good musicians whose instrument is guitar. So I never ever need to use derogatory terms when referring to them.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

Honest question. Where does it stop?

I think about this, too. What is the end game for people who want to police language? What does the world look like at the end of this slippery slope? What kind art and discourse do we have 20 years from now when language has been sanitized to remove all the potential "trigger words?"

 

[matt holt]

Blackhawks better NOT change their name!

I don't think they will have to: there is a big distinction between the term "Redskins", which refers generically to those of Native American decent, and is therefore inherently racist, and "Blackhawks" which refers to a specific Native American tribe by what I believe to be an English translation of their self-chosen name.

 

[chicago_mike]

I think about this, too. What is the end game for people who want to police language? What does the world look like at the end of this slippery slope? What kind art and discourse do we have 20 years from now when language has been sanitized to remove all the potential "trigger words?"

Everybody says the same things, buys the same crap, wears the same clothes...none one is different

 

[chicago_mike]

I don't think they will have to: there is a big distinction between the term "Redskins", which refers generically to those of Native American decent, and is therefore inherently racist, and "Blackhawks" which refers to a specific Native American tribe by what I believe to be an English translation of their self-chosen name.

Blackhawks were also a military group.

 

[Febs]

Stop voicing your opinion and trying to make a law that forces me to change my life to fit YOURS...thats what we "anti-pc" people are saying. Fundamentally.

Irony alert.

 

[blue4]

I don't think they will have to: there is a big distinction between the term "Redskins", which refers generically to those of Native American decent, and is therefore inherently racist, and "Blackhawks" which refers to a specific Native American tribe by what I believe to be an English translation of their self-chosen name.

I thought it was based on the actual war leader Black Hawk.