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Cheapest/easiest way to get Taurus sounds?

How do you use a VST plug in without a laptop or computer? Is there a sound module or portable emulator that you can get? I would love to find a small box that could load with VSTs triggered by pedals.


I picked up one of these and they are pretty cool...

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However the interface is **** and it has been far too much work to tweak the VSTs to how I want them, but I did get the Taurus sound going.

That being said I'm picking up my Taurus 3 pedals today... tired of beating around the bush so I just said to hell with it and ponied up the cash.
 
I picked up one of these and they are pretty cool...

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However the interface is **** and it has been far too much work to tweak the VSTs to how I want them, but I did get the Taurus sound going.

That being said I'm picking up my Taurus 3 pedals today... tired of beating around the bush so I just said to hell with it and ponied up the cash.

Lucky guy! Actually I just found out my best friend from high school has a Taurus 1 in his closet. It's dead but he's thinking about shipping them to me. Fingers crossed....
Let me know if you decide to sell the V-Machine, and thanks for the info. I dreaded the idea of depending on an old Mac notebook at my gigs!
 
I've been GASing for a bass pedal setup, and have been poking around eBay this morning and I came across a set of original Taurus I pedals, and a couple of Taurus II pedals, one with the synth unit and one without, just the pedals, and it made me curious. If I'm not mistaken, in the past I've read that the Taurus II pedals lacked some of the fatness that made the Taurus I famous. Does anyone here have any first hand experience with the Taurus II?
 
Finally I got my Fatar/Basyn MIDIpedals working with VST Taurus plugin. I have a SAVIhost and VST Taurus plugin on my laptop, connected to my pedals with Xmidi 1X1 MIDI/USB cable. Works great, no latency at all. Audio is taken out from the headphones jack to the mixing table.
Marko
 
Just to clarify some things about our Basyn MIDI adapter kit, when we originally purchased the design from Howard Cano, there was just the bare 14 pins on the board (0.1 spacing). We looked for a lot of connectors to use before we settled on the 14 pin adapter we now include. It allows you to connect wires to the board with no soldering. You strip the wire, insert it in the appropriate hole on the top, pull it down through the pressure guides on the side and you're done. We've tried to make this unit as simple to install as possible.

A little note on units that don't light up. The light should go on when powered. The power connector expects + on the inside pin, which is the opposite of what a lot of effects pedals use. So if you're using a Boss power adapter for example, it won't work. The adapter we sell (JWin JAC-32) is switchable so it works either way (also switches to 220v).

My current personal rig has the Basyn MIDI Controller connected to a small PC running the Taurus VST plugin. I use the free version of Cantible as the host (great program), so I can also play a few samples (the beginning of Close to the Edge, for example). Its the best Taurus sound out there, and the price is free.
 
Here's my setup. $40 for the midi kit, $15 for the pedals, and $150 for the Roland JV 1010.
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hYPERsLOTH:

Where did you get the pedals? That is, are they Fatar, an old Taurus, OR???

Which kit, Basyn?

Velocity sensitive?

I still have my Basyn MIDI kit but still have not gotten it integrated with the video game buttons I bought.

It should work, but won't have any velocity sensitivity. I don't see myself playing expressively with my feet anyway, but I'm not sure what the difference would be.
 
Hey Colonel Monk. I got these pedals from Craigs List. They came from an old church style organ. They don't have any velocity sensitivity.The ones I use are on/off...... like a light switch lol. Fatar or Rolands would though. That is indeed the Basyn kit. It works with any type of pedals. I use a reverb unit to have sustain on the notes; otherwise they cut off too quickly. If I was a synth guy I would come up with patches that would sustain nicely.
 
Hey Colonel Monk. I got these pedals from Craigs List. They came from an old church style organ. They don't have any velocity sensitivity.The ones I use are on/off...... like a light switch lol. Fatar or Rolands would though. That is indeed the Basyn kit. It works with any type of pedals. I use a reverb unit to have sustain on the notes; otherwise they cut off too quickly. If I was a synth guy I would come up with patches that would sustain nicely.

You know, I'm thinking I'm going to do the same thing. I'm confused - I think...

I was going to make an enclosure and build mine with momentary buttons just like the basyn - I got 8 white ones and 5 black ones so that they would resemble the keyboard, but I keep thinking I'd rather have a setup like yours.

Now that I'm gonna ditch my little phatty stage and get the Slim Phatty I'm gonna need to ramp up on this project so I can use it.

Are they really heavy? I already have a huge rig of gear.... :rollno:
 
An earlier iteration of my bass synth setup:

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The StudioLogic MP-113 pedals feed via midi into my Digitech pedal board, and my bass plugs into the pedal board via regular input. The pedal board, besides containing its own effects, functions as a 4in/2out A/D/A converter, which plugs via USB2 into the laptop. The laptop runs Cantible as a VST host, into which I have loaded a whole lot of VST instruments and effects, like different Roland emulators, Taurus, Absynth 5, Massive, Guitar Rig, "Mini-Mogue," etc. The instruments are triggered by the midi bass pedals (or keyboard, depending on the channel assignments), and the bass itself can be routed simultaneously through the effects VSTs. Wet/dry mix can be made using the expression pedal on the pedal board. Latency is measured at 2.9 ms, almost negligible, so I can use the setup in real-time. Except for the bass pedals, the whole thing was cobbled together from equipment I had that has been adapted. It has its glitches, which I'm working out. I've since eliminated the full size keyboard and I'm looking for a smaller 2 or 3 octave controller that I can wear with a strap.
 
You know, I'm thinking I'm going to do the same thing. I'm confused - I think...

I was going to make an enclosure and build mine with momentary buttons just like the basyn - I got 8 white ones and 5 black ones so that they would resemble the keyboard, but I keep thinking I'd rather have a setup like yours.

Now that I'm gonna ditch my little phatty stage and get the Slim Phatty I'm gonna need to ramp up on this project so I can use it.

Are they really heavy? I already have a huge rig of gear.... :rollno:

It's not too heavy. More like bulky. Works well. I would like to make a cover for it since it looks kinda ratty though. I haven't read anything as far as velocity. Would like to find out for sure.
 
The Basyn MIDI Adapter was designed to be inexpensive and easy to install, with very little wiring needed. It doesn't support velocity sensitivety, which actually may not be the best thing for a foot controlled pedalboard, since you're playing while balanced on one foot, getting the right amount of pressure is not always easy.

For our pedalboards, we use heavy duty 1" arcade-style pushbuttons, which are both rugged and sensitive to touch (but not velocity sensitive). We've found they work very well.

Nice to see some of the completed projects.