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"Check In" here before and after your gigs, Set #2, the sequel!

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#761
BluesBear said:
Without being there it's nearly impossible to diagnose your feedback problem. There are so many things it might have been.

- Your amp in the kickback position could have been resonating the upper atmosphere and bleeding into another mic. Were you using overhead mics on the drums?
- It could have been the low freqs from the subs bouncing back into any of the mics. Even acoustic coupling if the stage was resonant.
- It could have been a combination on stage and FOH exiciting a mode in the room. Did you run a RTA before sound check?

Now, even though it could have been many things, a good tech should have found the cause within a minute, two at the most. Completely correcting it might take a few minutes, but finding the culprit should be simple.

So why didn't your sound tech just mute each mic one at a time until it disappeared? :confused:
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One at a time:

- Yes the drums were mic'd. kick, snare, hat, 3 tom mics (spread across 5 toms), and yes, two overhead condensers. The drummer was positioned at about 4:00 to me and raised up a foot or so, with probably 8 feet max separating my kickback amp and the drum riser. So yes, considering where my amp was, it was pretty much a straight shot to the drum riser and firing upwards from 8 feet way, could easily have been firing into the same vertical plane as the drum overheads, as well. I n which case, assuming I had thought of this at the time, a quick attempted fix would have been to reverse the positioning of my amp so that it was at my right foot, firing away from the drums instead of at my left foot firing towards them.

- The subs were located on the floor, in front of (not on) the stage.

- Don't think they ran an RTA but I'm not sure. The FOH guy is a friend and a pro, but set-up was a real clusterflock due to circumstances beyond our control so we didn't really have the time we could/should have and he was doing a lot of stuff on the fly.

There was another bassist in the house during our first set and he told the FOH guy he thought the bass tone was too muddy and boomy, so the FOH guy and I spent about 10 minutes on our first break trying to square that away. It made a difference in the house (or so my wife said), but the stage sound didn't improve and actually got a bit worse as the night went on.
 
#762
BluesBear said:
Without being there it's nearly impossible to diagnose your feedback problem. There are so many things it might have been.

- Your amp in the kickback position could have been resonating the upper atmosphere and bleeding into another mic. Were you using overhead mics on the drums?
- It could have been the low freqs from the subs bouncing back into any of the mics. Even acoustic coupling if the stage was resonant.
- It could have been a combination on stage and FOH exiciting a mode in the room. Did you run a RTA before sound check?

Now, even though it could have been many things, a good tech should have found the cause within a minute, two at the most. Completely correcting it might take a few minutes, but finding the culprit should be simple.

So why didn't your sound tech just mute each mic one at a time until it disappeared? :confused:
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+1 Strange he would have waited till the end of the set to fix the problem muting each mic. till you find the problem would have taking minutes like you said in the mean time the crowd and possibly the owners are being soared by the howling sound emanating from the stage.
 
#763
I had the same problem on an outdoor gig a couple summers ago... low-end feedback on the stage, and muddy sound in the house. Different soundman, P.A. system and amp setup, but the exact same issues. Maybe it's just me and/or my bass. But seriously... it's a 70's P-Bass... about as close to an industry standard as you can get. How hard can it be?
 
#766
Wooo!

After 6 months of no gigs with my main band due to car accidents and broken drummers we have got a 3 date line up and a radio interview all this week!

16/03/11 - Radio interview on HopeFM
17/03/11 - Paddys day gig at the local venue where eveyone plays
18/03/11 - Slot supporting the Faux Fighters, (Foos trib band)
19/03/11 - My local bar have asked us to play and its always an amazing gig! Packed out, lots of ladies and great people to play too!

What an awesome come back after 6 months off and we have written 3 songs for the occasion to boot!

WOOOOOOO!

...not that im excited or anything ;)
 
#770
Okay, we played last night started out no problem with setup. Since have played this room before many times we new we would have a good crowd but, the day after the holiday is sometimes a tuff sale after people have party the night before. But by the middle of the first set the place was packed with our people man I have to tell you our fans are the best! We played till two and had to do two extra songs before they would let us leave. Nearly everyone stayed all night and were talking to us in the parking before heading home so, I got in at 2:45 instead of the normal 2:30 Move my eq. to my other car for tonights show. Then I ate dinner s/s was in bed by 3:30. Gig tonight parking lot conversation was about how they all can't wait to see us again in Clifton! later people RTS
 
#771
Gig two went great! Place was packed started a 15 minutes late due to customers we waited for them to finish eating no big deal. Rocked the place home by 2:30 one extra song because of town laws out by 2:00 Here is a video of us from the 1st night Doors roadhouse blues little bass solo after harmonica and guitar fun enjoy Invalid Link Removed thanks RTS
 
#772
Jason P Bass said:
Ah, argh, ugh, with great complaining, I am doing another battle of the bands tomorrow at Canal Club in Richmond VA.
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Never followed up - turns out we won that round of the Battle of the Bands. I was quite surprised - we were the only out-of-town band there that night, with absolutely no local fan support, and our 20 minute set was plagued with technical problems. On a night when it seemed like nothing went right, we won. :rollno:

The other bands there were all quite good. The most technically proficient among them, though, was like Pantera-heavy and extremely aggressive. I think they were a hard sell for a mixed audience (instead of a dedicated heavy metal audience).

So we'll be back in Richmond on March 31 trying to win the whole thing.
 
#774
Played my first gig ever last weekend. It was a small show on the Appalachian State University's campus, and we were the first of five bands. I was more excited than nervous (this may be because the bassists for one of the other band offered to let me borrow his rig, which was at least 10x better than mine :bassist:)

The show was riddled with technical difficulties. The lead guitarist's guitar broke somehow right before we went on ( Luckily he had a spare). The keyboard also insisted on randomly cutting out, but we pushed through despite our bad luck. All things considered, we weren't truly ready. 3 out of the 5 members, including myself, were new to the band, and while I had practiced our songs as much as possible since joining the band, it was obvious that the new guitarist and drummer had not.

On a happier note, after the show, a few people specifically came to talk to me and told me how great a job they thought I did and the band leader thanked me for being on point and keeping the band together when the others got lost. So, when it's all said and done, I actually feel pretty good about that show.
 
#777
Very happy after tonight's gig because most of the country songs we played got some of the best crowd reactions - "Homegrown tomatoes", "Wagon wheel" and "Need you now", so three very different kinds of country. I sometimes worry that doing country songs in this part of Europe is just self-indulgence on my part, but it seems I worried for nothing. Also did "Crazy ex-girlfriend" which went over OK but was very appropriate as I did get a few texts from a crazy ex this evening, LOL.
 
#778
From the above-mentioned gig, video of "Wagon Wheel" - YouTube - Koj - and yeah, the bar only had one working mic and we had to pass it around. They had two when I played there with another band a week earlier, but somebody stole two cables and a mic stand in the meantime... Lots of fun, though.

And "Homegrown Tomatoes" which was also requested again as as encore - YouTube - Koj
 
#779
Last week's gig!

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#780
Had our album launch gig on Saturday, all time record crowd in the venue we played, had an absolute ball playing. Made an absolute killing on merch sales too, so I'm a happy man! It felt amazing to look down at a packed room, with pretty much everyone there singing along to our songs, particularly since I don't know most of the words I didn't write myself! :-p
A few photos

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and one of me looking very slack-jawed! :-p

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Plus an arty shot of my rig for the night

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Warwick FNA Jazzman into a Markbass LMII, into a Gallien Kreuger 2x12. Sounded great.
 
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