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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 16)

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#661
KJung said:
+1 to all the above. Jimmy really hit the ball out of the park with his LM basses. IMO, the 'best of the best' for those looking for a relatively accurate late 70's J vibe in an uber quality 5 string version. Four years and counting with mine.... still haven't had to adjust the neck! Plays like butter (as does Jason's), very even up and down the neck, fat D and G strings, articulate B, and moderate weight.

Literally the best 70's style J that I've ever experienced. I took it out of the box 4 years ago and started playing it and like it more every year!

Jason and I liked the tone of the LM's much better through the Markbass F500 (much punchier, tighter and meatier up top), but the point of the hang was to mess around with the Streamliner, which sounds good in a different way... warmer, fatter down low, with more 'give' to the feel, but a little too 'hollow' for a 70's style J IMO. I do not gig with that rig and the LM.

With a P bass.... that's a totally different thing. For those of you with the A-C P's who like a 'relatively clean but very all tube tone', the Streamliner/Berg combination is a thing of complete beauty! Massively dynamic in feel, and super meaty and fat down low, with just the right amount of mid grind for a P with nickels or whatever.
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#662
KJung said:
+1 to all the above. Jimmy really hit the ball out of the park with his LM basses. IMO, the 'best of the best' for those looking for a relatively accurate late 70's J vibe in an uber quality 5 string version. Four years and counting with mine.... still haven't had to adjust the neck! Plays like butter (as does Jason's), very even up and down the neck, fat D and G strings, articulate B, and moderate weight.

Literally the best 70's style J that I've ever experienced. I took it out of the box 4 years ago and started playing it and like it more every year!

Jason and I liked the tone of the LM's much better through the Markbass F500 (much punchier, tighter and meatier up top), but the point of the hang was to mess around with the Streamliner, which sounds good in a different way... warmer, fatter down low, with more 'give' to the feel, but a little too 'hollow' for a 70's style J IMO. I do not gig with that rig and the LM.

With a P bass.... that's a totally different thing. For those of you with the A-C P's who like a 'relatively clean but very all tube tone', the Streamliner/Berg combination is a thing of complete beauty! Massively dynamic in feel, and super meaty and fat down low, with just the right amount of mid grind for a P with nickels or whatever.
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easly the best, i remember when i first picked an lm up after just buying my lg, i ordered one on the spot without even thinking twice
 
#664
YCBass said:
Hey Anil,
The CAOJ you're refering to was as Bass Player Live 2010... And as far as the Tom Barney model goes, last I checked it's any model 5-string with an 18mm spacing, except the KBP.
IMO, if you've played an LG, RA or LM, a Tom Barney would sound the same.
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Thanks YC,

Another question to all you Jazz Bass Playa's :)
Do block- inlays affect the sound compared to dot inlays?
One would say that there is " more wood " with the dots so maybe that version has a more warm sound?

A Dutch bassplayer Michiel van Schie, is testing a handmade bass wih blocks and to his opinion the blocks are causing the
" miller-ish" snap in the sound. Sorry its in Dutch check video from 3:30


YouTube - Gratis basles Michel van Schie
 
#665
bassdoubler said:
IMHO, the RA really takes the trophy....obviously I own one, but I've played a couple of LMs and while I agree they are insanely amazing basses, the RA seems to do all the exact same sounds while remaining several pounds lighter and with a sweet nitro paint job!
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My RA sounded very different from my LM. However, +1, another great voice from Jimmy.
 
#666
Here is a pic of my LG5 in Inca Silver Nitro. What an awesome
freaking bass this is. BTW... I have been told I need smile more.:atoz::)
Dan
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#668
Baccomang said:
Thanks YC,

Another question to all you Jazz Bass Playa's :)
Do block- inlays affect the sound compared to dot inlays?
One would say that there is " more wood " with the dots so maybe that version has a more warm sound?

A Dutch bassplayer Michiel van Schie, is testing a handmade bass wih blocks and to his opinion the blocks are causing the
" miller-ish" snap in the sound. Sorry its in Dutch check video from 3:30


YouTube - Gratis basles Michel van Schie
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Unless that dutch bassist also is testing an otherwise identical bass without blocks, his conclusions are most likely rubbish. Much of the 'myths and overstatements' regarding the impact of stuff like bolt-on versus neck through, etc. results IMO from these types of statements attributing tonal impact to the most visible component of an instrument.

If there is any impact of blocks, it would be so subtle as to most likely be meaningless when combined with the hundreds of other interactions among player, strings, and bass components.

I wouldn't worry about it!:)
 
#669
KJung said:
Unless that dutch bassist also is testing an otherwise identical bass without blocks, his conclusions are most likely rubbish. Much of the 'myths and overstatements' regarding the impact of stuff like bolt-on versus neck through, etc. results IMO from these types of statements based attributing tonal impact to the most visible component of an instrument.

If there is any impact of blocks, it would be so subtle as to most likely be meaningless when combined with the hundreds of other interactions among player, strings, and bass components.

I wouldn't worry about it!:)
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Thanks for the replies guys , i also thought it would not affect the sound that much!
 
#670
Baccomang said:
Thanks for the replies guys , i also thought it would not affect the sound that much!
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As a more direct test, Jason (Vision) and I were able to compare our LM's directly through the same amp, same player, same strings, with the only 'spec' difference between the two basses being blocks and binding and about a 1 pound weight difference. They sounded literally identical.
 
#671
IMO to really do a fair test they need to be played live and in the mix on the same tune...
There's a great chance that testing solo in a small room you'll miss the different textures and nuances that reveal themselves when in the full band context...IMO It really is all about how they sit in the mix...
 
#672
jonno1707 said:
IMO to really do a fair test they need to be played live and in the mix on the same tune...
There's a great chance that testing solo in a small room you'll miss the different textures and nuances that reveal themselves when in the full band context...IMO It really is all about how they sit in the mix...
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I agree, it can go both ways, with many things noticed played solo disappearing in a mix, and also vice versa, which some things that sound good at home lacking in various mixes and other rooms.

However, it would be HIGHLY unusual for two basses that are spec'd the same and sound virtually identical at home to all of a sudden magically differ in a lot of ways on the gig.

The point is, blocks and binding..... tonally I wouldn't worry about it.:D
 
#674
jonno1707 said:
Agreed 100% on the blocks and binding having absolutely no effect but the weight thing...Not there yet...
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+1 The slight weight difference between Jason's and my bass is pretty trivial (slightly under a pound), and doesn't seem to make a noticable impact.

However, a 3 or 4 pound difference between a super lightweight bass (i.e., closer to 8 pounds) and a boat anchor (closer to 12) would of course have at least some effect.

Whether that effect is good or bad is of course pure personal taste.
 
#676
peterpalmieri said:
Hopefully we will see a few LMs at Mitch's in a few weeks. I am very interested to play some others.
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me too dude....PLEASE PM ME IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN COMING SO I CAN GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS!! April 9th is the date and I'd say any time from 2 PM on is a good time to come!
Again, non AC owners are welcome and may bring other basses/rigs but obviously ACs are preferred....and we can hit the biergarten by my house in BK....the beer list is INSANE and I'm sure they'll be more than happy to accommodate at least 100 bass players haha
 
#680
svtb15 said:
Which one are you selling
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Hey Kirk, not sure quite yet if its going up but its the Classic Supreme below.

-3 tone burst /all NY/DN/all nitro/older body style/tinted neck . I got it back in late 2007.

I just posted above because Joel posted and I wondered if there would be any interest just casually ..and...wow...much interest for sure! I didnt expect that and would have waited to mention anything if I knew there was this kind of interest.

So like I wrote back to everyone I still have to decide after Jimmy sends some things up to me in the next few weeks. In the end I will have a few ACs that I'll have to move and one will be a Classic Supreme.

Here it is below the night I got it. Jimmy and I handpicked the woods in NY and the board is from the original old DN log in NY. Maybe the nicest burst I've owned.
 

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