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Club Alleva Coppolo (part 3)

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jonno1707 said:
LG-AG-LM-Etc-
Can somebody give me a breakdown of all the Alleva model codes and what they stand for??
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LG--classic 60's vibe... alder, RW, 60' pickup position. You can go all the way and get a Nitro finish to really cop that 1967 type thing (not sure of the exact date, but you know what I mean)

LM... Later 70's sort of thing.... ash, maple board, 70's pickup position

RA... meant to cop the 'transition' period early 70's Fender J vibe (edit: fixed this from info provided below)... alder (for a little more 'balls' while still keeping the weight low), maple board with glossy poly neck finish, 70's

The preamps have a passive bypass option, so it makes sense to get it included, with the passive tone control option on any bass that you get. It's a very musical, subtle, 'passive' sounding boost only pre.

I think I have that all right! I have no idea what the actual letters represent.
 
#703
Actually, the RA is the early 70's transition model. The LM has the later 70's "Marcus" sound. The RA is meant to be kind of a hybrid of the LG and LM. However, Ken has the construction materials and pickup spacing bang on. Mostly what the codes mean is a deadly sounding and playing instrument; a certain GAS attack for any who may dare to play one!
 
#705
esoxhntr said:
Actually, the RA is the early 70's transition model. The LM has the later 70's "Marcus" sound. The RA is meant to be kind of a hybrid of the LG and LM. However, Ken has the construction materials and pickup spacing bang on.
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I always get that mixed up. It's the gloss neck finish that always seems to be more of that 1977 thing or whatever.

And, just for clarification, even the LM is very organic and 'passive' sounding. It isn't really a 'jazz on steroid' sort of Marcus thing... more organic and woody sounding than that, even with the preamp tone controls cranked a bit
 
#706
I ordered a twist with my last LG.. alder Body with Nitro, 60s pup spacing, Maple board with Nitro, matching headstock... in Inca Silver.. has a 70s 25th anniversary strat vibe in a way... I also have my Push/Pull pot on my Tone knob instead of the 2nd Vol pot....
Plays like Buttah

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#707
I imagine you right on the money there too Ken. I've never played the LM, but if the difference between the RA and LM is about the same as the difference between the LG and the RA, then you'd have to describe it as subtle but noticeable. I don't think there are better words to describe Jimmy's basses than "woody and organic".
 
#710
KJung said:
I always get that mixed up. It's the gloss neck finish that always seems to be more of that 1977 thing or whatever.

And, just for clarification, even the LM is very organic and 'passive' sounding. It isn't really a 'jazz on steroid' sort of Marcus thing... more organic and woody sounding than that, even with the preamp tone controls cranked a bit
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i remember you saying you had a lighter one right? i think that organic woody sound could be because of the weight. the lighter one i played had a sound that i would describe as that and the white custom lm5 i played was slightly heavier and i had a different character. that was one thing i noticed, each instrument had an individual character.
 
#711
Has anyone ever A-B'd the Hipshot bridge compared to the bent plate bridge that Jimmy has milled from a machine shop?

I know this is a topic that has been touched on before, but the time is coming for me to make a decision. (maybe next month) I like the ease of use that the Hipshot bridge offers. But the LG5 I ordered is 3TS Nitro with dots and binding (ala '66 transition era) The bent plate would complete the vibe, but my funds are pretty tapped out lately. So coffing up another couple Franklins for a more basic bridge is hard to swallow.

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#713
I was supposed to do that wasn't I?
I have the bent plate on my KBP5 and the regular AC hipshot on my LG.
I do know that the KBP5 is the punchiest bass that i have played .. With a note that does not decay from the peak note hit all that fast.. I dont know if it is the bridge or the wood of the body..
I am sorry for not getting to doing a bridge swap yet... I have been playing these basses too much..
The KBP5 has been getting alot of use this summer and it did great on a country session that i did a few weeks ago. The KBP is also very light in weight only about 7.5 pounds of ultra lightweight alder.. maybe that has to do with it??
I will eventually get to the bridge swap to know for sure.. Sorry!

I remember a salmon colored LG5 at NAMM that had bent plate on it and it seemed to stand out of the many basses that he brought to the show as a special one.. Was it the bridge?? Again I don't know for sure. But again that LG5 was light in weight too.

Either way you go, you will be happy.. So dont worry about it . just enjoy it...


Roscoe5 said:
Has anyone ever A-B'd the Hipshot bridge compared to the bent plate bridge that Jimmy has milled from a machine shop?

I know this is a topic that has been touched on before, but the time is coming for me to make a decision. (maybe next month) I like the ease of use that the Hipshot bridge offers. But the LG5 I ordered is 3TS Nitro with dots and binding (ala '66 transition era) The bent plate would complete the vibe, but my funds are pretty tapped out lately. So coffing up another couple Franklins for a more basic bridge is hard to swallow.

Comments?
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#714
narud said:
i remember you saying you had a lighter one right? i think that organic woody sound could be because of the weight. the lighter one i played had a sound that i would describe as that and the white custom lm5 i played was slightly heavier and i had a different character. that was one thing i noticed, each instrument had an individual character.
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Mine is relatively lightweight. It sounds pretty similar to Mikebass's slightly heavier LG-5 (alder, RW, 60's position). Mike's is, not surprisingly, a little darker sounding, fatter in the low end, and has a touch softer attack in the upper mids. However, they are more similar sounding than different.

I'm sure a singificantly heavier ash body would bring out a somewhat more percussive attack and maybe a more aggressive tone.

I just love mine to death... EVERYTHING about it.. grind, growl, punch, playability, weight, feel, look:bassist::D
 
#715
svtb15 said:
I ordered a twist with my last LG.. alder Body with Nitro, 60s pup spacing, Maple board with Nitro, matching headstock... in Inca Silver.. has a 70s 25th anniversary strat vibe in a way... I also have my Push/Pull pot on my Tone knob instead of the 2nd Vol pot....
Plays like Buttah

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That's a beauty.
 
#716
KJung said:
Mine is relatively lightweight. It sounds pretty similar to Mikebasses slightly heavier LG-5 (alder, RW, 60's position). Mike's is, not surprisingly, a little darker sounding, fatter in the low end, and has a touch softer attack in the upper mids. However, they are more similar sounding than different.

I'm sure a singificantly heavier ash body would bring out a somewhat more percussive attack and maybe a more aggressive tone.

I just love mine to death... EVERYTHING about it.. grind, growl, punch, playability, weight, feel, look:bassist::D
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im shooting for somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 and half pounds. im hoping that can be done at least. i dont really need another light weight 70's style jazz because i just sold one:D

where do you like to run the preamp? i asked him how he designed it to be used and he said he made it to be dime'd. i found i liked the bass and treble both boosted about half way on every bass i played. flat didnt really do it for me.
 
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#720
svtb15 said:
I was supposed to do that wasn't I?
I have the bent plate on my KBP5 and the regular AC hipshot on my LG.
I do know that the KBP5 is the punchiest bass that i have played .. With a note that does not decay from the peak note hit all that fast.. I dont know if it is the bridge or the wood of the body..
I am sorry for not getting to doing a bridge swap yet... I have been playing these basses too much..
The KBP5 has been getting alot of use this summer and it did great on a country session that i did a few weeks ago. The KBP is also very light in weight only about 7.5 pounds of ultra lightweight alder.. maybe that has to do with it??
I will eventually get to the bridge swap to know for sure.. Sorry!

I remember a salmon colored LG5 at NAMM that had bent plate on it and it seemed to stand out of the many basses that he brought to the show as a special one.. Was it the bridge?? Again I don't know for sure. But again that LG5 was light in weight too.

Either way you go, you will be happy.. So dont worry about it . just enjoy it...
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Thanks Kirk. I can always swap to the Bent Plate bridge later. It would be easier to cough up a couple hundred bucks later after I absorb spending several grand. But I can't imagine not being blown away by the LG5 once it's in my hands, Hipshot bridge or Bent plate. It's gonna be fun.

I am SOOOO hoping to say; Ken, Kirk and everybody else who owns an Alleva was RIGHT! I think that's exactly what's going to happen. I'm banking on it in fact! Gary
 
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