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HI
Not a fan of vol/vol. Rather have one knob to turn on and off when gigging. To each their own. All comes down to what you're used to. Nice to have your bass built like you like
Rob
Not a fan of vol/vol. Rather have one knob to turn on and off when gigging. To each their own. All comes down to what you're used to. Nice to have your bass built like you like
Rob
You will never get a J to have the low mid meat of that Modern with those big humbuckers set close to the bridge. Totally different thing, and the impact of graphite and chambering on the tone is VERY minor.
The super lightweight basses do have a more open, less compressed low end, but it is IMO not in a 'good' way to my ear... more flubby versus tight. However, that has more to do with getting an uber light (under 8 pound) instrument IMO versus the minor chambering that is done to those basses.
Makes sense. I have an apples/oranges test environment with my Modern being the only NYC I have owned with the newest Sadowsky design specs. Although, there is an "energy" that the Modern NYC bass has even when played unplugged that none of the other ones I had ever seemed to have. It could be the ultralight nature of it, the graphite, the wood types or just plain old mojo. I don't know. But, if I could find myself another Sadowsky with a JJ config that had whatever it is, I'd be pretty excited.
As for the SC suggestion, I don't see it happening. The PUs in the bass sound fantastic. If I really have to have a SC fix, I can play my four string Lakland.
Chasarms said:
Btw my bad(was on my phone), I didn't read the whole thing on your other post.. Yep, I think the SC's is more open than HC's but compared to the modern the low end is definitely bigger on the moderns..
That would actually be "resistance".
And the affect of the 250K vs the 500K master volume pot swap is also not related to this topic.
Just FYI.
I'm avoiding the tech on this because it really does get pretty complicated with a variable resistor network attached to inductive devices (pickups) and the dynamic behavior over the frequency range typical of a bass guitar. IMHO, it would be a huge time waster and raise more questions than it answered even if someone who really understood it tried. IMHO, it's much simpler just to try and have someone who's played both speak in layman's terms.
FWIW anyway.
Hi, it's been a while for me here.. a small pickup issue, sort of.
A little more than a year ago the bridge pickup went bad on my 06' std4.
I contacted the shop and got a replacement (outstanding service from Kevin. Took the bad pickup and sent me a new one. The bass was not under warranty, I actually bought it used. They really stand behind their name & products!)
While waiting for the pickup I installed a NJ4 set I had around. Great vintage singles so they stayed on the bass for a long time.
Just recently I changed to V/V configuration and also went back to the HC's - original neck & new bridge.
Now, these are different pickups. I'm not even sure they are made by the same vendor. The pole pieces are different size, the bottom is different, and especially they sound different to my ears. Not the same sound character. I actually like the old one better, the one from 2006.
Any info/thoughts?
A little more than a year ago the bridge pickup went bad on my 06' std4.
I contacted the shop and got a replacement (outstanding service from Kevin. Took the bad pickup and sent me a new one. The bass was not under warranty, I actually bought it used. They really stand behind their name & products!)
While waiting for the pickup I installed a NJ4 set I had around. Great vintage singles so they stayed on the bass for a long time.
Just recently I changed to V/V configuration and also went back to the HC's - original neck & new bridge.
Now, these are different pickups. I'm not even sure they are made by the same vendor. The pole pieces are different size, the bottom is different, and especially they sound different to my ears. Not the same sound character. I actually like the old one better, the one from 2006.
Any info/thoughts?
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My personal opinion is hat I am not a fan of the Norstrad pickups.. But to each his own.. I find them to sound almost scratchy in the top end with a scooped sort of tone.. It is just not a smooth tone to me which i get with the Duncans or the Dimarzios that Roger uses or used to use... I had Nords in my PJ5 for a while and at first it was interesting but over time it grated on me.. and engineers liked the old way more.. SO I went back to the originals and Im much happier.
My old 80s jj sadowsky has Dimarzios.. My NYC 5 has Duncans P and Dimarzio J and is smooth as heck.. Engineers love this bass... And i think it has gotten me work
My old 80s jj sadowsky has Dimarzios.. My NYC 5 has Duncans P and Dimarzio J and is smooth as heck.. Engineers love this bass... And i think it has gotten me work
That would actually be "resistance".
And the affect of the 250K vs the 500K master volume pot swap is also not related to this topic.
Just FYI.
I'm avoiding the tech on this because it really does get pretty complicated with a variable resistor network attached to inductive devices (pickups) and the dynamic behavior over the frequency range typical of a bass guitar. IMHO, it would be a huge time waster and raise more questions than it answered even if someone who really understood it tried. IMHO, it's much simpler just to try and have someone who's played both speak in layman's terms.
FWIW anyway.
You missed my point. I was stating that the IMPACT of the change in pot specs is probably more impactful (and still relatively trivial) versus vol/vol and vol/blend, and also if one does not know the spec of the vol/vol pots versus the vol/blend pot it is replacing, it would be difficult to attribute the difference in tone to the blend control.
Totally +1 though, and we are making the same point. My point was there might be MUCH more going on with Kirk's swap that just the configuration of the knobs
Just throwing in my pic for the part 22 thread....
Who says there is no money past the 5th fret....
Who says there is no money past the 5th fret....
Idle question while spec-ing up my dream bass... Do/would Sadowsky make a 24 fret, vintage style, 5-string P/J?
I've seen the 4-string 24 fret P/Js, and I've seen the 5-string 21-fret P/Js.
I have an RV5 but I'm lusting after the P/J tone. I think the above bass is the only bass I'd ever need, would they make it?
I've seen the 4-string 24 fret P/Js, and I've seen the 5-string 21-fret P/Js.
I have an RV5 but I'm lusting after the P/J tone. I think the above bass is the only bass I'd ever need, would they make it?
Rob is right. Yes they would.
In fact, here's a picture of a non-vintage model. It'd be no problem for them to make it vintage style:
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Actually, we don't know that at all. Remember, there are a lot of basses they make that never end up on the stock page. Like the one I just bought, for example, and also the 24-Fret 5 I got from Ken a while back.
Here's another... again, non-vintage, but honestly, no big deal on that... and no, I wouldn't question the wisdom at all. My 24-Fret JJ is vintage style, and I love it! See below...
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My "new" one...
DylanB said:True, very true. Which gives me an excuse to keep checking the classifieds.
They do make them, they almost did for me. What changed was that I wanted a reverse PJ and they suggested against it (they would have done it if I really wanted it though, I'm sure); their reason being if you're a person who slaps there's very little room to pop between the P and the neck. I prefered the room over the extra 3 frets so I switched. Just food for thought.
