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Club Sadowsky!!!

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A carthartic moment for me: I sold my other two Sadowsky NYC basses and this is my only remaining bass. It's perfect for the tones I love to hear through my Sadowsky SA200 and cabs. The fat punchy corpulent tones are incredible.

And unlike most of you guys I'm not gigging out playing bass. I don't need three of the world's greatest electric basses to noodle around at home. ....convincing myself I did the right thing.

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P. Bass said:
Love it!
Here's some wisdom posted elsewhere a number of years ago worth considering I think.
B.
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Couldn't of put it better then Ed. It's true... You have to play a P & J differently and I really didn't get that till a little while ago. This is why I don't ever think I'll get a PJ. For me - the two should be disconnected. I know - I know... just my opinion though... It should either be a P or a J. I'm in the minority though, I know.

I used to play a P in my comfy J style (faster, more notes) and never bonded with it - DUH - wonder why!!!!!

Then it hit me - I've been hooked on David Holmes stuff - he did the sound tracks for the Oceans 11, 12 & 13 movies.

example:


^ Those grooves are all about the P. Simple, less notes, more space, but your notes better mean something. No noodling allowed. These grooves are simple yes, yet undeniable groove-funk - just great. This is the kick I've been on lately with my Fender P and just put in an NYC P-Build. :hyper:
 
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P. Bass said:
Have fun learning some new Dan.
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Not learning new tunes, but rather trying to memorize more of them. We've got a couple of sets of material and about a third I'm on charts. Next gig we'll do the entire Aja album along with other assorted hits. I have a tough time weaning myself from the charts for Deacon Blues, Aja, and Babylon Sisters. Just takes more 'shedding.

Video from last year (with a long-gone Nordy)

http://vimeo.com/28290874
 
#28,445
JimS said:
A carthartic moment for me: I sold my other two Sadowsky NYC basses...

...unlike most of you guys I'm not gigging out playing bass. I don't need three of the world's greatest electric basses to noodle around at home. ....convincing myself I did the right thing.
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IMHO, you did. Sadowsky basses need to be played. :)
 
#28,446
Modern Growl said:
...I've been hooked on David Holmes stuff - he did the sound tracks for the Oceans 11, 12 & 13 movies.

example:


^ Those grooves are all about the P. Simple, less notes, more space, but your notes better mean something. No noodling allowed. These grooves are simple yes, yet undeniable groove-funk - just great. This is the kick I've been on lately with my Fender P and just put in an NYC P-Build. :hyper:
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Great playing, but WAY WAY WAY too overcompressed. That may have been a deliberate "effect" in the studio (I assume it was), but not at all my thing. Takes away too much of the punch... way too choked for my tastes. Let that P breathe a little more... PLEASE! :)
 
#28,447
Vic said:
Great playing, but WAY WAY WAY too overcompressed. That may have been a deliberate "effect" in the studio (I assume it was), but not at all my thing. Takes away too much of the punch... way too choked for my tastes. Let that P breathe a little more... PLEASE! :)
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Yeah, probably a bit over produced/compressed, but it was the baselines what what I was talking about though. Great "P Bass" lines.

Your right, it doesn't punch enough at all... but a fun, groovy line. The entire soundtrack is like that - just great P grooves.
 
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Modern Growl said:
Yeah, probably a bit over produced/compressed, but it was the baselines what what I was talking about though. Great "P Bass" lines.

Your right, it doesn't punch enough at all... but a fun, groovy line. The entire soundtrack is like that - just great P grooves.
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Oh yeah, I got yer point, and I definitely agree.

And I'm sure the final product is exactly what somebody wanted. You don't pay that kinda' money and not get exactly what you ask for. :)

Just wouldn't have been my personal choice, knowing how much punchier a P can sound.

P. Bass,
Yeah, that Friedland post from '03 was perfect. I never saw that before. Thanks for posting it!
 
#28,449
Modern Growl said:
Couldn't of put it better then Ed. It's true... You have to play a P & J differently and I really didn't get that till a little while ago..... just put in an NYC P-Build. :hyper:
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What exactly have you ordered? There's a couple P4s "in stock" that are gems as well.
B.

nostatic said:
Not learning new tunes, but rather trying to memorize more of them. We've got a couple of sets of material and about a third I'm on charts. Next gig we'll do the entire Aja album along with other assorted hits. I have a tough time weaning myself from the charts for Deacon Blues, Aja, and Babylon Sisters. Just takes more 'shedding.

Video from last year (with a long-gone Nordy)

http://vimeo.com/28290874
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Thanks for posting that vid. Anytime for the Dan! :D
Speaking of which - I just remembered I had THIS from awhile back. All you other guys & gals gotta forgive me here if you're not fans. It's a S.D. cover band here in Toronto that is comprised of session players & guys from other bands who do this gig once a month @ 2 venues. The sax player & bass player are good friends of mine since the early '80s. We used to share a house & would spend a lot of time talking about music & their time @ Humber. The drummer who was subbing this night is Mark Kelso who is the head of the percussion dept. @ Humber College school of music in T.O.
I recorded this w/my little LS10 recorder that I use for the overdubs. It's Jan 29,2009 live @The Orbit Room in Toronto. The song is "AJA" & the drum solo near the end is unreal. I remember all the guys in the band turned around to watch him do his magic. :)
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Vic said:
P. Bass,
Yeah, that Friedland post from '03 was perfect. I never saw that before. Thanks for posting it!
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My pleasure. Sometimes a post like that is worth a bookmark.:)
B.
 
#28,453
P. Bass said:
Thanks for posting that vid. Anytime for the Dan! :D
Speaking of which - I just remembered I had THIS from awhile back. All you other guys & gals gotta forgive me here if you're not fans. It's a S.D. cover band here in Toronto that is comprised of session players & guys from other bands who do this gig once a month @ 2 venues. The sax player & bass player are good friends of mine since the mid '80s. We used to share a house & would spend a lot of time talking about music & their time @ Humber. The drummer who was subbing this night is Mark Kelso who is the head of the percussion dept. @ Humber College school of music in T.O.
I recorded this w/my little LS10 recorder that I use for the overdubs. It's Jan 29,2009 live @The Orbit Room in Toronto. The song is "AJA" & the drum solo near the end is unreal. I remember all the guys in the band turned around to watch him do his magic. :)
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Aja is a very fun tune to play, but certainly was nerve-wracking the first time I did it live. There is a phenomenon I've noticed where I'll know a cover tune really when but then playing it live I realize little details from the recording that I would cue off of (certain guitar figure, drum lick, etc). If that part was played differently, things could head south quickly. Especially with somewhat arbitrary collections of bars of 2, 3, 4, and 6 :D
 
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nostatic said:
Aja is a very fun tune to play, but certainly was nerve-wracking the first time I did it live. There is a phenomenon I've noticed where I'll know a cover tune really when but then playing it live I realize little details from the recording that I would cue off of (certain guitar figure, drum lick, etc). If that part was played differently, things could head south quickly. Especially with somewhat arbitrary collections of bars of 2, 3, 4, and 6 :D
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That's when you know the bass line is truly great... when it's integral to the song sounding "right". Doobie Brothers is another perfect example of this, and if I recall correctly, also a P bass.
 
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nostatic said:
Aja is a very fun tune to play, but certainly was nerve-wracking the first time I did it live. There is a phenomenon I've noticed where I'll know a cover tune really when but then playing it live I realize little details from the recording that I would cue off of (certain guitar figure, drum lick, etc). If that part was played differently, things could head south quickly. Especially with somewhat arbitrary collections of bars of 2, 3, 4, and 6 :D
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I hear ya. Some S.D. gets pretty complex & can not only cover every scale degree in the key's root but like you said, it gets terrifying if you get lost. If you play this kind of stuff by memory, it requires constant reinforcing (practice). On Jeff Beck's Live At Ronnie Scott's DVD he talks about that very thing (going south in a hurry) in the special features of the DVD. You are very lucky to be able to gig S.D. It's very well written & interesting to play. I love groovin' & this stuff is not an easy undertaking to nail.
B.
 
#28,456
P. Bass said:
My 2002 Fender P has a 1-5/8 nut & it's a fine feel. I just seem to resonate w/ 1-3/4" & that wider string spacing feel for a P.
It's similar to how Strat players like that same thing compared to - say a Tele's spacing I guess.
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I hear ya... I guess it's all relative. I'm so used to the 1.5" nut width of all my jazzes that the 1 5/8th is a nice comfy stretch, but anything further gets a bit weird for me and my left hand fingering, especially towards the nut.

i actually played both of those P's you see on Sadowsky's site. The 59' Burst w/ Brazilian RW board was sick, but its on hold for Matchbox 20's bassist.

The maple board Vintiquity was also great, but I prefer the tone of Ash/Maple vs. Alder/Maple - and it had the full 1.75 nut width... so special order it'll be :)

But playing both of those sealed the deal for me on an NYC P.
 
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bonga_rascal said:
So here's basically my question, do you guys feel that getting an Alder rosewood bass will sit better in the mix than a swamp ash maple one primarily because of the amount of mids present in the bass due to wood choice ?

Thanks.
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I generally prefer rosewood boards over maple because I find that rosewood tends to provide a stronger fundamental.
 
#28,458
P. Bass said:
What exactly have you ordered? There's a couple P4s "in stock" that are gems as well.
B.


Thanks for posting that vid. Anytime for the Dan! :D
Speaking of which - I just remembered I had THIS from awhile back. All you other guys & gals gotta forgive me here if you're not fans. It's a S.D. cover band here in Toronto that is comprised of session players & guys from other bands who do this gig once a month @ 2 venues. The sax player & bass player are good friends of mine since the mid '80s. We used to share a house & would spend a lot of time talking about music & their time @ Humber. The drummer who was subbing this night is Mark Kelso who is the head of the percussion dept. @ Humber College school of music in T.O.
I recorded this w/my little LS10 recorder that I use for the overdubs. It's Jan 29,2009 live @The Orbit Room in Toronto. The song is "AJA" & the drum solo near the end is unreal. I remember all the guys in the band turned around to watch him do his magic. :)
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My pleasure. Sometimes a post like that is worth a bookmark.:)
B.
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Thanks for posting the live cut. That was cool. The guys were tight that night.
 
#28,459
Chef said:
That's super cool.
I'd love to goof off with that for a few minutes and get a feel for what it's about, I've never played anything like that!

5 way pup select switch? or...???
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Yes.
1 bridge
2 bridge + middle ( like the Modern combined pup)
3 bridge + neck (similar to a J bass combined pup )
4 middle + neck (sounds like pos 2 but fuller and rounder)
5 neck pickup
 

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