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Club Sadowsky!!!

#30,141
Modern Growl said:
Bottom line to me is it doesn't really matter. I know deep down that whatever Roger & Co. are using, change, no change, whatever... chances are I'll like it. I'm a single coil guy. So as long as I get a J bass w/ singles - I know it'll sound great.

I think some get caught up in the little things.

Overall – does the bass sound great? Yup. So who cares who made what.

This comment isn't directed at you Vic - or anyone in specific. Just speaking in general.
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FWIW, honestly, a lot of times, I hesitate to even comment when it gets into pickup sources, because I completely agree with what you're saying here, and I don't know the full story either, AND, as you're saying here, ultimately, it's not really (and will never be) an issue anyway. Roger always assures you get great stuff when you buy his products, which is what it always boils down to.

The only reason I do comment (when I do) is if I think I can help dodge misinformation or minimize concern (for exactly the reasons you state here).
 
#30,142
Vic said:
FWIW, honestly, a lot of times, I hesitate to even comment when it gets into pickup sources, because I completely agree with what you're saying here, and I don't know the full story either, AND, as you're saying here, ultimately, it's not really (and will never be) an issue anyway. Roger always assures you get great stuff when you buy his products, which is what it always boils down to.

The only reason I do comment (when I do) is if I think I can help dodge misinformation or minimize concern (for exactly the reasons you state here).
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Sure, it's true that the shop is always doing the right thing. Still, it's nice to know who is making their pickups, so that guys in my situation can know what to expect/how to plan for things!
 
#30,143
My take is:
does it really matter who makes what? Roger strings are made by two different manufactures, but who care which one as long they are consistent and sound good. For pups is the same, I don't care if Dimarzio or Nordstrand or SD make them as long they work great, are consistent and sound good.


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#30,144
maurilio said:
My take is:
does it really matter who makes what? Roger strings are made by two different manufactures, but who care which one as long they are consistent and sound good. For pups is the same, I don't care if Dimarzio or Nordstrand or SD make them as long they work great, are consistent and sound good.


M
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Well, yes, I believe it does matter, for the reason that I mentioned: for people who are trying to make up their decision about what to buy, it is nice to know what the 'baseline' is of whatever pickup one is considering, to help the end user make better decisions about which pickup to try first, etc.
 
#30,146
Whisper said:
Hi all,

Here's a question for the Sadowksy owners: do you find the lightweight 5-string basses (i.e. a sub-8 lb. NYC Vintage 5-string) to be neck heavy/neck dive?

I had a 7.15 lb Sadowsky 4 string and it had the worst neck dive of any bass I've ever owned. Despite the light weight, it was so uncomfortable to play (IME... the bass sounded great, just a poor ergonomic experience)

However, the 4-strings have the heavy vintage-style tuners whereas the 5-strings have the Hipshot Ultralites. I'm thinking that the 5-strings might balance better?

Thanks
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No neck dive on either of my Modern 5-24s (with nylon strap). A suede-backed strap will take care of neck dive nicely. I use one with my LeCompte VB-5, which has no upper horn. With a smooth strap, it has significant neck dive, but none with suede.
 
#30,149
ac3320 said:
Well, yes, I believe it does matter, for the reason that I mentioned: for people who are trying to make up their decision about what to buy, it is nice to know what the 'baseline' is of whatever pickup one is considering, to help the end user make better decisions about which pickup to try first, etc.
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I hear what your saying - trust me. I know what its like wanting to know every little nuance of tone that will come out of a bass (or a reference point).

But when it comes to Sadowsky - the changes are subtle. In a live mix, or a studio mix - your honestly not going to be able to tell any difference whatsoever.

Perhaps if you did a very tightly controlled A/B comparision, you would find some slight differences - but overall the bass is going to sound like the bass.

I used to obsess over the little stuff. Once I focused more in my actual knowledge and theory (or lack there of :)) - I realilzed its the actual notes that make you sound great, how you play, what you play, your phrasing, tension and release... etc...

But I know this is the gear section so I wont go on on about theory.

My point is don't sweat the small stuff.

For an extreme example - Scott Divine or Janek Gwizdala would kill me in an audition if they played an Ibanez Soundgear or an SX bass vs. me playing my Sadowsky. :D
 
#30,150
Question for the Sadowsky crew - does anyone have thoughts on the UV70s that have alder/rosewood combos instead of ash/maple? I'm in the market for a Metro and checking out some options...the alder/rosewood combo along with the 70's spacing of the UV70 seems unique - I can't find any sound clips of this combo on YouTube or anywhere...
 
#30,151
Here's the ispiration for the Sadowsky color bora blue burst- Bora Bora. Man, I could live there!

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#30,152
vision said:
Question for the Sadowsky crew - does anyone have thoughts on the UV70s that have alder/rosewood combos instead of ash/maple? I'm in the market for a Metro and checking out some options...the alder/rosewood combo along with the 70's spacing of the UV70 seems unique - I can't find any sound clips of this combo on YouTube or anywhere...
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Bass Club Chicago has one.



I've been looking at the same combo for my next Sadowsky 4 string. Love the look and killer tone. Blocks and binding ftw!
 
#30,154
Quick backstory: Dead Rebecca was a New Orleans based progressive metal band in the 80's and 90's. The band reformed from 2000-2002 with me replacing the string of previous bassists (like Spinal Tap drummers). The singer moved to Hawaii but came home for 2 weeks last Mardi Gras. We were able to get two quick practices and do a reunion gig. The 2nd guitarist had actually not been in the band (or played any other gigs) since around 1990.

Anyway, our friend just mixed the opening song and edited the 2 camera shoot. I used my Metro Will Lee 4 (ash+maple) for the whole gig, so here it is in action.

 
#30,155
Whisper said:
Hi all,

Here's a question for the Sadowksy owners: do you find the lightweight 5-string basses (i.e. a sub-8 lb. NYC Vintage 5-string) to be neck heavy/neck dive?

I had a 7.15 lb Sadowsky 4 string and it had the worst neck dive of any bass I've ever owned. Despite the light weight, it was so uncomfortable to play (IME... the bass sounded great, just a poor ergonomic experience)

However, the 4-strings have the heavy vintage-style tuners whereas the 5-strings have the Hipshot Ultralites. I'm thinking that the 5-strings might balance better?

Thanks
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My NYC V4PJ is right at 8# and my Metro Will Lee 4 is 8.5#. Both basses balance very well for me with no neckdive whatsoever. The Will Lee even has the detuner which adds a touch more weight to the headstock.
 
#30,157
Whisper said:
Hi all,

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However, the 4-strings have the heavy vintage-style tuners whereas the 5-strings have the Hipshot Ultralites. I'm thinking that the 5-strings might balance better?

Thanks
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I've played a couple of 4s and didn't notice any dive. I'm guessing that the overall lighter neck (less width, smaller headstock and one less tuner) makes up for the larger tuners on the 4-banger.

I kind of wish hips hot would make ultralites that have a full-sized barrel. Right now Fender's the only company that seems to be able to take the weight off without shrinking the barrel. On a Lakland 5, the smaller barrels are okay because the headstock is more crowded, but on the Sadowsky (and others) that tuner lacks visual punch.

Granted, I don't know if Fender's post 2007 Hipshot tuners are light enough to avoid neck dive on a chambered bass. They're noticeably lighter than the older Schaller ones, though. And the look is totally badass.
 
#30,159
Chef said:
Hipshot do make ultralights with both 3/8 and 1/2 posts
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Yep, but I'm wondering if the larger posts create too much weight for chambered basses. I seem to remember Bass12's Lull having the dinky posts as well, and that bass is chambered.

It's hard to make a big deal over something so small when the basses are so bloody brilliant, though. I just think that the Sadowsky headstock would look punchier with the full-sized barrels is all.
 
#30,160
NOLA Bass said:
Quick backstory: Dead Rebecca was a New Orleans based progressive metal band in the 80's and 90's. The band reformed from 2000-2002 with me replacing the string of previous bassists (like Spinal Tap drummers). The singer moved to Hawaii but came home for 2 weeks last Mardi Gras. We were able to get two quick practices and do a reunion gig. The 2nd guitarist had actually not been in the band (or played any other gigs) since around 1990.

Anyway, our friend just mixed the opening song and edited the 2 camera shoot. I used my Metro Will Lee 4 (ash+maple) for the whole gig, so here it is in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnR9p-tNYwo
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Pretty tight for a two-rehearsal reunion gig, man. Nice work.
 

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