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Club Sadowsky!!!

What I'm really asking perhaps is do I need (for clarity, definition etc) the J pick up for playing stuff like this? Or could I get that by only the P pick up, and working the pre amp a certain way?




My finding is that if you pan toward the neck pickup you can make a J sound a lot like a P. I've found this to be especially true of the Sadowsky hum-cancelling J, I guess because it has a bit of a mellower, maybe slightly hollow tone, vs. the more traditional-sounding single-coil J. Once it's in a mix, especially a dense mix like Dream Theater, and you're applying active EQ at the bass and possibly also at the amp, the difference probably won't even be discernable at all.

I use my Sadowksy 5-string J/J (hum-cancelling pickups) to play a lot of funk, soul, Motown and reggae. Most wouldn't suggest the brand for that material. A bit of passive "VTC" roll-off and old stainless strings and it sounds totally legit sonically. By far the bigger factor is my right hand than any pickup, wood, or whatever other variable you could change.

Take it with a grain of salt, as I'm not one to say "you have to hear it in a mix". Mine sounds fantastic on its own, and I've heard people playing the brand that sounded totally lost in the mix. It's really all up to you, and if you have an amp that can cop an old-school vibe or proper rock tones if you're doing metal then so much the better. So long as you don't get extreme with the active boost-only treble and bass, therefore obliterating your mids and infuriating your sound man or studio engineer, you should be fine with any quality bass of any configuration.

Speaking of which, and given anticipation over an SA-200 reissue, who plays a "modern" bass like Sadowsky through older-school style gear? Mine absolutely kills through a Mesa WalkAbout and especially a MarkBass TTE500 (their tube-style head with passive EQ stack) and a big 1x15 cab.
 
From the video, I can tell that he's not using both pickups because the blend pot at center detent would look like the volume wide open (1st knob).
As far as i can see, it should be 100% P or close to it. Has a bit of a strange tone in the high register for a P though, IMO.

Hard to say with so much of the original track in the mix, and who knows if the knobs have been re&re'd or what EQ settings he's got outboard.

I frequently play a P/J blended down the middle - love that sound - and to me his sound seems blended between the two.
 
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My finding is that if you pan toward the neck pickup you can make a J sound a lot like a P. I've found this to be especially true of the Sadowsky hum-cancelling J, I guess because it has a bit of a mellower, maybe slightly hollow tone, vs. the more traditional-sounding single-coil J. Once it's in a mix, especially a dense mix like Dream Theater, and you're applying active EQ at the bass and possibly also at the amp, the difference probably won't even be discernable at all.

I use my Sadowksy 5-string J/J (hum-cancelling pickups) to play a lot of funk, soul, Motown and reggae. Most wouldn't suggest the brand for that material. A bit of passive "VTC" roll-off and old stainless strings and it sounds totally legit sonically. By far the bigger factor is my right hand than any pickup, wood, or whatever other variable you could change.

Take it with a grain of salt, as I'm not one to say "you have to hear it in a mix". Mine sounds fantastic on its own, and I've heard people playing the brand that sounded totally lost in the mix. It's really all up to you, and if you have an amp that can cop an old-school vibe or proper rock tones if you're doing metal then so much the better. So long as you don't get extreme with the active boost-only treble and bass, therefore obliterating your mids and infuriating your sound man or studio engineer, you should be fine with any quality bass of any configuration.

Speaking of which, who plays a "modern" bass like Sadowsky through older-school style gear? Mines absolutely kills through a Mesa WalkAbout and especially a MarkBass TTE500 (their tube-style head with passive EQ stack) and a big 1x15 cab.
+1 on the HC neck pickup and some VTC roll off coping a P tone for Motown/Stax/Meters material.

The Sadowsky sounds big with my Fender Super Bassman into two 15"s.
 
Third +1 here that the Sadowsky JJ can cop old school tones. I had sound guys gushing over my RV5 when I was playing in the Motown Funk band. That is actually a tone that preamp does very well.

I have had even more luck with the Delano JMVC neck pickup and have a build in progress at shop now with those pickups.
When are "we" receiving "our" new Sadowsky? ;):)
 
Extremely painful wait, but worth! :thumbsup:
It's not completely painful. For the moment, I'm quite happily gigging a 97 Shoreline Gold Jazz Deluxe with the Sadowsky preamp and the Delano JMVC pickups. It's not a half bad instrument.

I'm also trying to sort out my thoughts about my 5 and 6 string instruments. They're fine and all, but I'm just not needing them for cover work. Jazz gigs seem to have evaporated. So, I'm doing some head scratching on that front. FWIW. Maybe, I'm just gettin old.
 
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I just paid guys. I JUST paid for my "new-used" sadowsky bass. A metro which is what I wanted (can't justify an NYC because of money and skill level). I was looking around for one used around $2000 and the MOST being $2200. I was looking at a 21 fret P/J 5 string, looking at a JJ 20 fret and I asked myself what the "Perfect Sadowsky Metro" would be. I already wasted money on a Spector that I didn't fall in love with so I didn't want to waste any more money or time. My list was:

$2000 or Under
5 strings (of course)
24 Frets
Maple neck
Sunburst Body with Black being a CLOSE 2nd

I just paid for a Black 24 fret MV5 from reverb for 100 more than my wish price. Coming from Japan (saw something recently about buying from Japan so I made sure it was paypal secure and safe) hopefully it'll be here in 2 weeks. I'M SO EXCITED!!!
 
I just paid for a Black 24 fret MV5 from reverb for 100 more than my wish price. Coming from Japan (saw something recently about buying from Japan so I made sure it was paypal secure and safe) hopefully it'll be here in 2 weeks. I'M SO EXCITED!!!

Congrats on the "new old" Metro!

I'm no authority on the subject, but I believe MV5s are all 21 frets - at least mine is. I thought the only 24 fret models were the "Modern" series.

UPDATE: I did a little more homework and realized there ARE some Vintage series 24-frets out there. Good to know!
 
My finding is that if you pan toward the neck pickup you can make a J sound a lot like a P. I've found this to be especially true of the Sadowsky hum-cancelling J, I guess because it has a bit of a mellower, maybe slightly hollow tone, vs. more traditional-sounding single-coil J. Once it's in a mix, especially a dense mix like Dream Theater, and you're applying active EQ at the bass and possibly also at the amp, the difference probably won't even be discernable at all.

I use my Sadowksy 5-string J/J (hum-cancelling pickups) to play a lot of funk, soul, Motown and reggae. Most wouldn't suggest the brand for that material. A bit of passive "VTC" roll-off and old stainless strings and it sounds totally legit sonically. By far the bigger factor is my right hand than any pickup, wood, or whatever other variable you could change.

Take it with a grain of salt, as I'm not one to say "you have to hear it in a mix". Mine sounds fantastic on its own, and I've heard people playing the brand that sounded totally lost in the mix. It's really all up to you, and if you have an amp that can cop an old-school vibe or proper rock tones if you're doing metal then so much the better. So long as you don't get extreme with the active boost-only treble and bass, therefore obliterating your mids and infuriating your sound man or studio engineer, you should be fine with any quality bass of any configuration.

Speaking of which, and given anticipation over an SA-200 reissue, who plays a "modern" bass like Sadowsky through older-school style gear? Mine absolutely kills through a Mesa WalkAbout and especially a MarkBass TTE500 (their tube-style head with passive EQ stack) and a big 1x15 cab.

I completely agree with you on this. Especially with flats you can get a really spot on motown and old school funk tone.
As of me, I'm playing my MV5 with Sadowsky Black Labels flats 45-130, a Genz Benz Streamliner 900 and a Berg HS210 (this particular head and cab combination is just heavenly), so I'm totally for the "modern bass - vintage tone" thing.
 
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Congrats on the "new old" Metro!

I'm no authority on the subject, but I believe MV5s are all 21 frets - at least mine is. I thought the only 24 fret models were the "Modern" series.

UPDATE: I did a little more homework and realized there ARE some Vintage series 24-frets out there. Good to know!

Exactly! I only saw a few vidoes and said to myself "I'd love one of those but I'll never find one".
 
I just paid for a Black 24 fret MV5 from reverb for 100 more than my wish price. Coming from Japan (saw something recently about buying from Japan so I made sure it was paypal secure and safe) hopefully it'll be here in 2 weeks. I'M SO EXCITED!!!
Congrats! I think that model is awesome.

Bass San Diego has been stocking them, and I notice they tend to move pretty well. If that particular model came with the 1 3/4" nut, it would be done and done for me.
 
Question regarding pick guards on metro basses. I have an MV5 24 fret coming. Will the pick guards I order from the site fit the 24 fret bass (is there a difference?) The one that is coming is black but I'd like to change it. Also if Rodger sees this a light suggestion: when clicking on the different colors of the pick guards it'd be GREAT to see an example of that color where the photo is :D
 
Question regarding pick guards on metro basses. I have an MV5 24 fret coming. Will the pick guards I order from the site fit the 24 fret bass (is there a difference?) The one that is coming is black but I'd like to change it. Also if Rodger sees this a light suggestion: when clicking on the different colors of the pick guards it'd be GREAT to see an example of that color where the photo is :D

I have a metro RV5 and I called in to make sure I got the correct replacement. Took 10 minutes and was well worth it.

As a side note I am so happy I didn't trade away my RV5! It has become my #1 since I figured out the Sadowsky pre and how to tame the single coils. Such a wonderful sounding instrument.
 
From the video, I can tell that he's not using both pickups because the blend pot at center detent would look like the volume wide open (1st knob).
As far as i can see, it should be 100% P or close to it. Has a bit of a strange tone in the high register for a P though, IMO.

The answer is...(drumroll)...: Close to it. ;) I contancted him through Facebook, and he said it's not all the way P, there's a tiny amount of J in there as well, so it makes sense what you said about the high register. Thanks everyone for your input! :) This case is now solved. :)
 
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