Club Sadowsky!!!

[danclaro]

This is just a concept bass that we have yet to hear and evaluate. I have no idea at this time if this will be something we will be offering or when.

The large pickup size does look a bit weird to me but I love the possibilities! I've been playing a two p-pickup reversed 4-string configuration for the last few years and I've often wondered about having a 5-string version... I'll be watching this development!

Thanks Roger for sharing the experiment with us!

 

[danclaro]

Here's a pic of my 2 p-pickup bass and my "previously owned/#1" Sadowsky Standard PJ 4 (no longer mine, unfortunately!).

 

[DJDanny]

Awesome! Looks like a bass of the month club.

Thank you!!

 

[pickles]

The super P with a normal J would be cool on a 5. So you can have normal P most of the time but flop it reverse for songs with lots of low B work.

I’ve always thought the ideal thing would be a soap that sounded like a P in the neck position across all 5 strings. Could the super-P do that as well?

 

[MAJOR METAL]

Dudes,

How cool would it be to place the Super P&J in this model? [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

 

[Holdsg]

^^^agree, but that one is pretty special just the way it is too.

 

[SadowskySteve]

"What is Hip" is our opener... and one heck of a warmup for my fingers lol.

Wow! Do you warm up in the bull pen first?

I have a rule about that. Softer opener to get my hands warmed up. Please and thank you

 

[phillipkregg]

Wow! Do you warm up in the bull pen first?

I have a rule about that. Softer opener to get my hands warmed up. Please and thank you

What's funny is this is one of our strongest songs despite being one of the most difficult.

It was a required song for every member's audition, so I think we've just played it so many times and focused on it so much that eventually everything just started working together. Horns and drums had to put in a lot of work too. It's a blast to play but everybody put in some serious overtime on it!

Honestly, the song "You Got To Funkifize" is more difficult to me because you not only have to play fast fingerstyle while skipping octaves, but you can't rely on open strings because the riff moves D to C and chromatically back to D. At least with "What is Hip" your hand tends to stay in the same spot on the neck during the verses. And there's a ton of weird chromatic stuff going on later in the tune too - especially at the end.

 

[scubaduba]

Where's the best places to look at buying a NYC these days? I'm in the market for a five string. Not seeing a ton of them in stock at retailers.

 

[MAJOR METAL]

Where's the best places to look at buying a NYC these days? I'm in the market for a five string. Not seeing a ton of them in stock at retailers.

Here: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

or from my favorite dealer: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Let us know what you end up getting, happy shopping!

 

[chris_b]

In order to achieve the proper position of the standard and reverse P configuration, it is NOT possible to do this in a smaller shell.

IMO big pickups are cool. But what really matters is what they sound like.

So are we talking about a PJ, JJ, JM, SH or HH at the turn of a switch? That would be a very interesting feature!

 

[Fuzzbass]

So are we talking about a PJ, JJ, JM, SH or HH at the turn of a switch? That would be a very interesting feature!

From what I understand, each pickup has two modes, which results in four PJ combinations (both pickups on):

Standard P with J in 60's location
Standard P with J in 70's location
Reverse P with J in 60's location
Reverse P with J in 70's location



(someone please correct me if I've overlooked something)

 

[bucephylus]

I’ve always thought the ideal thing would be a soap that sounded like a P in the neck position across all 5 strings. Could the super-P do that as well?

FWIW, the most P sounding non-P neck pickups I’ve run across have been the Delano JMVC (not a Soap) and the Nordstrand Zen Blade.

One problem is that when a lot of cats want a P pickup, nothing else will do.

I’ll be interested to read what players think of this dual design. I would think (always dangerous) that the extra magnets might alter the way the string responds just a bit. Very tough to have your cake and eat it too. We will hope for the best.

 

[phillipkregg]

The super P with a normal J would be cool on a 5. So you can have normal P most of the time but flop it reverse for songs with lots of low B work.

I’ve always thought the ideal thing would be a soap that sounded like a P in the neck position across all 5 strings. Could the super-P do that as well?

The Sadowsky Modern panned to the neck soapbar pickup gets a surprisingly good, authentic P bass tone.

 

[Bassdudeman]

I wonder if there is an ALL ON possibility?... Meaning all coils on.

 

[ElMon]

The Sadowsky Modern panned to the neck soapbar pickup gets a surprisingly good, authentic P bass tone.

I can testify to this in court if needed. Especially when slapped. 'Forget Me Not' never sounded so good.

I think I need a 'Modern' with a P-Body shape. 'Need' being subjective of course.

 

[TolerancEJ]

@Bassdudeman <----- This is a great name! If you don't already do so, you should use this as your stage name and sell merchandise at your gigs.

 

[Fuzzbass]

I’ll be interested to read what players think of this dual design. I would think (always dangerous) that the extra magnets might alter the way the string responds just a bit.

Re extra magnets: I honestly have no idea, but my layman's hunch is that it might be one of those things that seems like a potential problem on paper but has no real world impact. F'r instance: converting a P-bass to PJ requires removal of wood for the pickup route, which could theoretically change the tone (I know this is apple and orange, just offering an analogy).

Again, I don't know about the extra magnets, but here are a couple of thoughts that might be relevant:

1. I don't believe that the lack of demand for basses with 3 or more pickups has anything to do with magnets affecting the strings.

2. I don't believe that either Roger or Carey would release a gimmick: i.e. a fancy system that had negative artifacts.

 

[bucephylus]

Re extra magnets: I honestly have no idea, but my layman's hunch is that it might be one of those things that seems like a potential problem on paper but has no real world impact. F'r instance: converting a P-bass to PJ requires removal of wood for the pickup route, which could theoretically change the tone (I know this is apple and orange, just offering an analogy).

Again, I don't know about the extra magnets, but here are a couple of thoughts that might be relevant:

1. I don't believe that the lack of demand for basses with 3 or more pickups has anything to do with magnets affecting the strings.

2. I don't believe that either Roger or Carey would release a gimmick: i.e. a fancy system that had negative artifacts.

+1 on your second point. No Q there.

On your first point, back when I used to massacre perfectly great basses by adding extra pickups (ancient history) I do remember the extra pickups changing the instrument’s response with original pickups only vs before adding the pickups. As to whether or not that is a factor in what Roger decides; I’m inclined to the old axiom that theory guides, experiment decides. Props to Roger for trying to push the envelope.

 

[HeavyJazz]

Given the choice I'd prefer multiple basses. Aesthetically it's just not my thing.