Club Sadowsky!!!

[Tim1]

I am sure that Roger made a comment on the Sadowsky Facebook page a few weeks back that from now on that page is only for Japan and NYC instruments. Basically Warwick deals with the Warwick production but he will continue to support NYC and Japanese instruments.

 

[deepestend]

Understood. But for the uninitiated who see Sadowsky on the headstock of an instrument and Google “Sadowsky bass” I can see where it would be helpful and useful to have links on the official Sadowsky website that point people in the right direction. We here on Talkbass in this specific Sadowsky fan thread (maybe) understand the different lines but many (maybe most) out there don’t.

This is a good point. We had it on the old website. I’ll figure out a place to add it back.

 

[Nebadon2000]

Called Sadowsky in NY about Warwick Metroline and was told they know nothing about them maybe Roger might when he gets back in town

PS; I contacted Warwick/Sadowsky Customer Service and they were very Responsive and gave me info I requested in a timely manor

 

[DavidJamesNHBass]

NYC, other Sadowsky models owner here…
If I may ask, is the NYC stuff the line that’s 100% in-house and overseen by Roger and crew while the rest of the product line is essentially licensed to the Warwick manufacturing folks using his very specific schematics/tolerances, etc. with the QC of being inspected by RS/NYC before shipping to customer? I’m not implying in any way that the mass-production instruments are an inferior product, but once you play an NYC it’s hard to put them down.

I will share my NYC is always one of 3-4 basses making the cut to be loaded for every show (out of 30+), and has earned its investment a few times over.

 

[Vic]

NYC, other Sadowsky models owner here…
If I may ask, is the NYC stuff the line that’s 100% in-house and overseen by Roger and crew while the rest of the product line is essentially licensed to the Warwick manufacturing folks using his very specific schematics/tolerances, etc. with the QC of being inspected by RS/NYC before shipping to customer?

Your wording is a bit confusing, but if you're asking if Roger has anything to do with production QC of the Warwick built instruments, the answer is no.

When he did the deal with them, he essentially did a "higher level" QC of their entire process, so he'd be comfortable with his name being on the product they build, sell, and support. But no, he's not part of their production process.

Roger's been wanting to get back to his roots of pure NYC shop builds for a long time, but his desire to also make his work available to a broader customer base made that pretty much impossible... until the Warwick deal came along anyway. So if Roger gets into answering questions about the Warwick stuff, it's strictly out of the goodness of his soul. It's not his official role.

 

[Nenor]

As long as it says Sadowsky on the headstock people will approach the origin first. It's unreasonable to expect customers to educate themselves with Sadowsky history as they buy a new instrument. A good soul is certainly an advantage here.

 

[Ivanofbass]

I have to agree with Nenor. While $4K may not be much for some, it was a major purchase for me. I can't afford a handmade one! I bought mine because I it said "Sadowsky". I could have bought a Warwick. Companies have manufacturing done in other countries all the time, But there is no disconnect. With all due respect, and as a new Metro owner. My first impression was that Saowsky wants nothing to do with these instruments. I'm not trying to be a complainer or harsh. Just a perspective.

 

[DavidJamesNHBass]

My Metro is a fretless, so it is not as noticeably 'different' as a standard NYC vs. Metro.
It is wearing TI JF 344's, and a massage of the low/high preamp gets me to where I'm happy.
Not my #1 fretless in the rack but makes the cut for top 5 (I have a bunch).

 

[deepestend]

I have to agree with Nenor. While $4K may not be much for some, it was a major purchase for me. I can't afford a handmade one! I bought mine because I it said "Sadowsky". I could have bought a Warwick. Companies have manufacturing done in other countries all the time, But there is no disconnect. With all due respect, and as a new Metro owner. My first impression was that Saowsky wants nothing to do with these instruments. I'm not trying to be a complainer or harsh. Just a perspective.

Roger is very involved with the Warwick Sadowsky models and cares a lot about that line. To be able to offer Sadowsky basses to more people and at a more affordable price—which is a big goal of the shop—he can’t do it all himself. When someone at the shop says that they don’t know anything about the Warwick made basses it’s not because they don’t care. The NYC shop just isn’t set up to answer questions or fix those models. You’ll get a faster response from Warwick USA because they are set up to do customer service in that area.

 

[scubaduba]

Roger is very involved with the Warwick Sadowsky models and cares a lot about that line. To be able to offer Sadowsky basses to more people and at a more affordable price—which is a big goal of the shop—he can’t do it all himself. When someone at the shop says that they don’t know anything about the Warwick made basses it’s not because they don’t care. The NYC shop just isn’t set up to answer questions or fix those models. You’ll get a faster response from Warwick USA because they are set up to do customer service in that area.

And that is why consumers need this intel when they visit Sadowsky.com, the brand on the headstock of their bass.

 

[deepestend]

And that is why consumers need this intel when they visit Sadowsky.com, the brand on the headstock of their bass.

Totally agree. It’s a top priority. We have some back end knots we are trying to unravel right now. Once we get those fixed so that the site can operate properly, we will get that info up there.

 

[Sadowsky]

Roger if you out there, bring these guys back somehow.

You can just use a soft cloth over the yolk of the stand.

 

[Sadowsky]

Thanks guys. The more I look, I see a clearance on other basses. I emailed Roger and he didn't answer my question. Forwarded it...That bothers me. If the guy that designs the bass can't tell you. There's might be a problem.View attachment 5189574

There is absolutely no issue with the Warwick rod. The spokewheel does not move in or out.

 

[Sadowsky]

No exact measurement, but I typically go the distance of about three of the tuning pegs past the string I’m cutting, slightly less for the thicker E and B strings. For the D, I just snip the end without any wraps off.

Edit: this is using Elixir long scales.

I cut the string two tuners beyond the one it is going in.

 

[Sadowsky]

Are Sadowsky strings still made by LaBella?

Not since 2013.

 

[Sadowsky]

It not quite that simple. If you put a P on a jazz bass where it is located on a precision, it doesn’t work nicely with the pickguard. Some manufacturers solve this issue by moving the P pickup forward, which does change the tone. I believe Roger may be one of the few who modifies the pickguard slightly to allow the P pickup to be located in the “correct” position.

Correct, we designed to pickguard to fit the model. We did not move the pickup.

 

[Sadowsky]

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My german metroline will lee.

It is a non issue. The German truss rod spoke wheel does not move in or out.

 

[Sadowsky]

I think that's what Roger wants, but his firm dedication to premium customer service for anything with his name on it keeps him involved... even when he should maybe just defer.

It's really somebody else's product at this point, and to be fair to Roger, should probably be treated that way. Otherwise, sometimes I feel putting him in the middle is just exploiting his extremely good nature in pretty much always going above and beyond when it comes to customers.

I think going directly to Warwick/Sadowsky for their products is the best way for them to see all the questions, feedback, concerns, etc., that they should be reacting to. Putting Roger or the NYC shop in the middle only makes the chain of communication more complicated and potentially less beneficial to Warwick/Sadowsky, and that's not a good thing.

I personally would only contact Roger or the NYC shop about NYC instruments at this point, and possibly legacy Japanese MetroExpress or MetroLines. Nothing else.

All that said, make no mistake, I'm not speaking for Roger. This is only my opinion and perspective. FWIW.

I answer every email sent to me regarding the MetroExpress and MetroLine basses, even if it is to only provide the correct address for their inquiry (US or Germany). I also monitor Club Sadowsky and our Facebook Groups and submit any necessary feedback to Warwick. I am totally involved with overseeing the licensed production from Warwick.

 

[Sadowsky]

Good, because there's still no link to buying the portabag.

Portabags are NOT for sale! Due to supply chain issues and import tariffs, I need to reserve them for my instruments. I recommend the Access Stage 5 gig bag, which is similar to mine. ACCESS Stage Five Electric Bass Bag - the Ultimate Hybrid Bag for your Bass

 

[Sadowsky]

I have to agree with Nenor. While $4K may not be much for some, it was a major purchase for me. I can't afford a handmade one! I bought mine because I it said "Sadowsky". I could have bought a Warwick. Companies have manufacturing done in other countries all the time, But there is no disconnect. With all due respect, and as a new Metro owner. My first impression was that Saowsky wants nothing to do with these instruments. I'm not trying to be a complainer or harsh. Just a perspective.

Read my reply below.