• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Composite Nidacore Fearful 15/6/1 Build

#102
Yeah, that would make a whole lot of sense for folks who want to migrate from plywood to nidacore. The same holds true for cab companies who want to offer ultra-lightweight versions of their existing designs.

Robby should chime in at some point but you could also PM/email him about pricing.
 
#107
This looks fantastic and after having layed up my own fibreglass/foam panels for a 15/6 build, I'm kinda wishing I'd gone this route instead. I've been poking around looking for product info on nidacore panels but haven't yet found any specifics on price. Did you guys source directly from Nidacore? Which panels are you using? 18WLGLAM?

Deb, if I ever get hold of a big table saw so I can cut my panels to size and get my 15/6 foam/glass cab built, we'll have to do a "side by each" comparison.
 
#108
dug dug: I don't know the product number for the nidacore but I seem to recall that a nidacore 4 x 8 sheet costs around $230. You could PM Robby. If the price is a bit shocking, factor in the time and materials required to glass foam (or some other panel) and the $$ might become more palatable.

I'd be happy to do a side by side. :)
 
#110
Definitely interested here, as I'm in CT. I checked out the website, but didn't see where the cab maker is located in the state...?

One thing I haven't read here is what the cab is going to be used for. What sound are you going for? What types of music do you play? What amps are you planning on pairing it with? Are you hoping it will be voiced like X companies cabs? Or is the whole point of this just to see how light and low you can go?

Regardless, I'm very interested! I've been thinking of changing out my large rig cabs, but perhaps I'll wait a bit and see where this goes.
 
#111
gscroggin said:
Or is the whole point of this just to see how light and low you can go?
Click to expand...

I can't speak for deb's tone goals. But first and foremost, this cab is a fEARFul. And the fEARful cabs were designed to be very flexible, and amenable to revealing even subtle EQ changes in any range.

After playing in originals bands for decades, getting back into cover bands for awhile made me aware I wanted to be able to do different tones for different songs by changing a preamp's presets or knobs, without having to fight gaps in enclosure frequency response, or inherent boominess, or inability to do low end when really cranked. So I designed fEARfuls with all that in mind as well as working toward other goals that could make a difference for me on the stages/venues I usually found myself.
 
#112
gscroggin said:
Definitely interested here, as I'm in CT. I checked out the website, but didn't see where the cab maker is located in the state...?

One thing I haven't read here is what the cab is going to be used for. What sound are you going for? What types of music do you play? What amps are you planning on pairing it with? Are you hoping it will be voiced like X companies cabs? Or is the whole point of this just to see how light and low you can go?

Regardless, I'm very interested! I've been thinking of changing out my large rig cabs, but perhaps I'll wait a bit and see where this goes.
Click to expand...

If you check out the rest of the fEarful info, you'll see that they're not voiced like any other cab. In fact, they're not voiced. They're designed to be as flat as possible across a wider frequency range than pretty much any other production cab that hasn't been based upon the fEarful. Basically, what you put into it is what you get, in a way that other cabs don't. You also get it louder. And lower. And cleaner. And off axis. ;)

With this build, it's all that but lighter than the roughly 50lbs that a wood fEarful weighs.
 
#115
jlepre said:
So regardless of what material (Glass vs. Wood) there should be no sonic difference? I know Glass will be more expensive than Wood, but that's OK with me, as the cab will be a fraction of the weight.

So as long as it sounds the same, this should be interesting.
Click to expand...

Really, the more vibrationally 'inert' a cab is, the better. Less energy lost in vibration means greater efficiency. The real key has nothing to do with weight (although we usually think heavier equals 'more inert') what you're looking for is STIFF. That's where proper bracing in the correct areas makes the big difference. The stiffer the panel material, the more you take the cabinet out of the equation in terms of detraction.
 
#116
jlepre: If you're a potential customer, I'd contact Robby about this. If you're in Toronto you're welcome to drop by and test the cab out. I can be paid in beer.

gscroggin: greenboy and BurningSkies did a great job answering the most important questions. In this instance, I think the better approach to address your line of questioning is for me to ask, what are your looking for? Lots of folks will be able to help you decide whether the fEARfuls would work for you. I prefer the fEARful sound over any other that I've tried and I'm going lightweight to reduce back stress. For me, this is going to be a versatile all-purpose 1 cab solution.

This is a good place to look (with links to the talkbass megathreads):
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

You could also search for Talkbasser KJung--he has youtube clips of LDS built fEARful-like cabs paired with various amps.

deb
 
#120
masonsjax said:
Is that stuff tough enough to put screws into? How will the speakers be mounted?
Click to expand...

You can put screws into it as long as they are long enough to go through both fiberglass skins.

I'm using T-nuts for the drivers, feet, and handles and long wood screws for the corners and jack plate. The only one that will need any special treatment will be the corners at the front because the screws can't go all the way through. I'm going to inject the area with some epoxy/glass mixture to give it something to grab.

Robby
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back