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[MobileHolmes]

Sounds like either the gig from heaven ... or hell. Depends upon how full of #@$!%!#^!# they are.

I know. I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, it is kind of demanding. On the other hand IF their description of their situation is true, I can't blame them for having specific standards (we want you to know the genre inside and out, be able to read our charts, and be available aren't unreasonable asks for a serious band).

But, there are a few things that give me pause and I don't think I'd bother with them (even if I were interested in country)
1. The gratuitous political bashing. I'm pretty political, I've played with people I don't agree with. I'd never put it in an ad.
2. If their situation is so great, why are they having such a hard time finding a bass player? I have a feeling they are embellishing a little or a lot.
3. Big Woo on opening for grammy winners. I've opened for grammy winners (Maybe they were just a nominee, I forget) before, and the band I was playing in at the time was good, but not fantastic or anything. We got the gig because we were in the right genere, good enough, and available that night to fill out a bill.

 

[HubbardsFate]

But I am a good musician that knows his poopie. And that is all I ask in return.

Bottom line, can you gel with other musicians? Or only play what you know and expect everyone to learn your poopie?

Is it just me, or does anyone else wanna claw their eyes out when reading an adult-written ad where they use the term "poopie"?

 

[Marial]

I understand but your advise was for others to ignore it and they may not feel the same as you.

Are you assuming the object of my comment? I did not actually specify whether my advice was universal or not.

 

[itsalljustaride]

And how that response reads to me sounds like textbook Millenial reasoning 101: "Not my fault. It's someone elses' fault" ....
Regardless of how I was raised, I had enough Brains and common sense to know that if I didn't agree with something or it didnt feel right, then I wasnt doing it. I wasnt going to act in a particular way just because as a child someone told me how to act and think. I didn't use the, "What do you expect, that's How I was raised" excuse

You're assuming that Millennials are sitting around complaining only. They aren't. They're busy adapting and dealing with the world their parents built. That doesn't mean they have to be happy about it. All of my friends are gainfully employed, college grads, and most of us weren't born with silver spoons in our mouths. Technically we're "cusp" millennials, but we're on the old end to fit the stereotype. Even if we were though, I don't see the stereotype in the kids I see everyday. I have friends in the corporate world who oversee teams of young millennials, and they love working with them.

Another poster was right, old people have been complaining about young people for forever, but there's a special relationship here I think in that "todays old people" seem to be complaining that kids today actually took their words to heart. I think its most clearly exhibited in the "participation trophy" rhetoric. I don't know anyone who actually received one of those, but even for those who did, they didn't value them. Those trophies weren't to spare the kids hurt fee-fees. They were to spare the hurt fee-fees of adults who actually handed them out. Now those same people are deriding their child's generations as if they all still want these "participation trophies" that they never gave a rip about to begin with.

 

[gln1955]

Not so fast there, scooter. Politics etc. are important to a LOT of people such as the people in that band. What's wrong with playing, socializing, etc. with people who share ideals/beliefs?

What's wrong is that a professional (or wanna be professional) band that is having trouble finding a bass player. They have a whole list of other requirements, which may be reasonable, but then throw out the political thing. Really, you're going to exclude a good player because you can't keep your yap shut about politics or be mature enough to engage other views in a civilized manner?

 

[DanBass]

Ha. New Hope ain't Philly!

LOL For sure! That said, not sure how "Country" it is either.. Hahaha

 

[Sixgunn]

It tends to keep one from being confronted with ideas that might challenge their own? If you are into politics and not into political discourse, we have a big problemo. I'd call that a problemo. I might call that the biggest problemo our country is dealing with right now.

True but as the saying goes, "water seeks it's own level", whatever level it may be. There are litterally MILLIONS of people out there, all across the political spectrum who are not interested in "enlightened" discourse that want to play in bands. Spend 5 seconds online and you'll see what I'm talking about. To deride someone for wanting to be in a band with like minded individuals is ridiculous, at best.

 

[Sixgunn]

Really, you're going to exclude a good player because you can't keep your yap shut about politics or be mature enough to engage other views in a civilized manner?

Welcome to the real world.

 

[morgan138]

Because the "tolerant" people will not tolerate "wrong" views and opinions?

I'm not sure why you're equating "pointing out this guy's use of dogwhistle phrases in a craigslist ad" with INTOLERANCE? Like, there are obviously posters on this thread who didn't realize that "snowflake" is a wink-wink-nudge-nudge right-wing and/or ageist insult...no reason to get defensive just because other posters are filling them in.

 

[Wesley R]

The add will eliminate most if not all of those who do not fit the culture of the band. This saves everyone a bunch of wasted effort and bad audition experiences. That is not to say that most people I know would find the add at least a little goofy.

 

[guy n. cognito]

3. Big Woo on opening for grammy winners. I've opened for grammy winners (Maybe they were just a nominee, I forget) before, and the band I was playing in at the time was good, but not fantastic or anything. We got the gig because we were in the right genere, good enough, and available that night to fill out a bill.

I once auditioned with a guy who's claim to fame was that he opened for Taylor Swift. And it was true.....but it was when she was 14 or so......

 

[gln1955]

You're assuming that Millennials are sitting around complaining only. They aren't. They're busy adapting and dealing with the world their parents built. That doesn't mean they have to be happy about it. All of my friends are gainfully employed, college grads, and most of us weren't born with silver spoons in our mouths. Technically we're "cusp" millennials, but we're on the old end to fit the stereotype. Even if we were though, I don't see the stereotype in the kids I see everyday. I have friends in the corporate world who oversee teams of young millennials, and they love working with them.

Another poster was right, old people have been complaining about young people for forever, but there's a special relationship here I think in that "todays old people" seem to be complaining that kids today actually took their words to heart. I think its most clearly exhibited in the "participation trophy" rhetoric. I don't know anyone who actually received one of those, but even for those who did, they didn't value them. Those trophies weren't to spare the kids hurt fee-fees. They were to spare the hurt fee-fees of adults who actually handed them out. Now those same people are deriding their child's generations as if they all still want these "participation trophies" that they never gave a rip about to begin with.

Bravo! I teach and work with millenials every day. This whole "snowflake generation" thing is a total load of crap. That it is spouted by 32-year-olds in the ad is sad. These guys are going to be insufferable bitter cranks when they are 60 (i.e., worse than me).

 

[gln1955]

Welcome to the real world.

Sorry, been in the real world long enough to know how to act in a professional environment.

 

[lfmn16]

lol, thank you.

This thread, oh, the irony.

I see you've noticed the little puppy following me around.

 

[Sixgunn]

Sorry, been in the real world long enough to know how to act in a professional environment.

I don't think so. I could sight countless examples of professionals who wouldn't "play nice" together.

 

[itsalljustaride]

Bravo! I teach and work with millenials every day. This whole "snowflake generation" thing is a total load of crap. That it is spouted by 32-year-olds in the ad is sad. These guys are going to be insufferable bitter cranks when they are 60 (i.e., worse than me).

I'm 34, and working hard not to become a bitter cranky closed-up shell of a human. It sometimes feels like a sisyphean task though The lure of "I know more than you because I've been around longer, so everyone should listen to me" is powerful, but not necessarily true always.

 

[Mugre]

And "snowflake?" Seriously? And the Grateful Dead being country? Wow ! Who knew?

I'm a lib. I voted for Sanders and Hilary but the snowflake thing exists especially around college towns. You know the ones who, for example, lose their shinola if you mention a woman has a great body. Of course women talk about men's bodies all day long and Rachel Maddow doesn't run a whole show about it.

Grateful Dead, of whom I'm not a big fan, have a long tradition of looking backwards to folk, americana, and bluegrass for their own music. I'm pretty sure that's why our Narcissist mentioned them.

Mugre

 

[Ffreddy]

True but as the saying goes, "water seeks it's own level", whatever level it may be. There are litterally MILLIONS of people out there, all across the political spectrum who are not interested in "enlightened" discourse that want to play in bands. Spend 5 seconds online and you'll see what I'm talking about. To deride someone for wanting to be in a band with like minded individuals is ridiculous, at best.

Yeah but water is a slave to physics, we are thinking little apes. We build dams and bridges, we can talk to people who disagree with us and juuuuust maybe be the better for it!

 

[lfmn16]

Not so fast there, scooter. Politics etc. are important to a LOT of people such as the people in that band. What's wrong with playing, socializing, etc. with people who share ideals/beliefs?

Nothing wrong with wanting a band with similar politics, nothing wrong with not wanting to discuss politics, IMHO. My primary focus is the music; I don't want to listen to someone else's political discourse during rehearsal, but if everybody is OK with it there is nothing wrong with playing in a band that DOES discuss politics.

 

[gln1955]

I don't think so. I could sight countless examples of professionals who wouldn't "play nice" together.

Well, of course, who couldn't. The point is these guys would rather have no bass player than one who has a different political viewpoint. Unprofessional and dumb.