His larger claim is that it makes his bass easier to play. Easier to get a good sound out of it. Of course there's no way for him to show us that, so this is all kind of pointless.
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CuteCube² Guitar - Play-in System for String Instruments
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Nah, don't want to convince nobody. You hear what you hear and like it or not. Blasted the original and 7 days after recordings through big PA system at gig last night without telling which one I play. Sound people, band members and location staff guessed 10 out of 10 right, the difference was surprisingly huge on loud volume. BTW, nobody spotted that on Sir Duke 3 days after recording there is only the neck PU on, on the other Sir Dukes it's both PU's on. Thought that would be caught immediately, because it's a totally different sound.
Now that wouldn't be possible. An ok bass just turns into more ok and a fantastic one into more fantastic
Nah, don't want to convince nobody. You hear what you hear and like it or not. Blasted the original and 7 days after recordings through big PA system at gig last night without telling which one I play. Sound people, band members and location staff guessed 10 out of 10 right, the difference was surprisingly huge on loud volume. BTW, nobody spotted that on Sir Duke 3 days after recording there is only the neck PU on, on the other Sir Dukes it's both PU's on. Thought that would be caught immediately, because it's a totally different sound.
If the purpose is to show the difference in tone that the vibrator makes, why would you purposely throw in another variable into the mix and turn off one of the P/Us for one of the takes. That in itself ruins the whole experiment, no?
Still not hearing $200 worth of difference OP, not even sure that I'd gamble $20 tbh. To me it sounds like the normal day-to-day variations that the vast majority of us get. YMMV though.
You're doing yourself no favours with distractions like altering the settings & adding spurious keyboard tracks. Plus, if we're not picking up something as obvious as one pickup being off, that implies that something's going missing in the recording process.
Here's a little example of a recording I made a few years ago of 'Politician':—
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OK the 'gimmick' is given away by the title, but...
which take is bare skin?
can you hazard a guess as to the type of couture? (e.g. silk/rubber/surgical etc.)
Pete.
You're doing yourself no favours with distractions like altering the settings & adding spurious keyboard tracks. Plus, if we're not picking up something as obvious as one pickup being off, that implies that something's going missing in the recording process.
Here's a little example of a recording I made a few years ago of 'Politician':—
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OK the 'gimmick' is given away by the title, but...
which take is bare skin?
can you hazard a guess as to the type of couture? (e.g. silk/rubber/surgical etc.)
Pete.
Actually, after seeing videos of the OP, he is a very good bass player, it confuses me also!
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/goofing
People talk about vintage or old instruments having a different feel and/or tone, and I personally don't doubt there is something to that. I think that years of use does things that are probably identifiable and quantifiable to a solid body electric instrument. I think that those probably amount to:
-Play wear to the neck causing a softening of the edges and a subtle 'rolling'. Wear to the frets that comes with play and proper upkeep, dressing and crowning. This is probably the most attributable factor in a 'played in' instrument.
-The pieces of a bolt on 'settling' into place more cohesively as necks are adjusted, the neck bolts tightened, play wear/tear seats the parts more completely (bridge/neck).
- Pickups age as they're based upon magnets and wire. Magnetic flux does change over time.
-There may be something to wood minimally losing moisture content over some years...but that's probably a hazy notion that's difficult to back up.
I just don't think that there's much to vibrations changing the physical aspect of a 2" thick block of wood that's most likely encased in an envelope of plastic. Even without the finish I don't see it realistically making much difference.
...Back to the goofing.
People talk about vintage or old instruments having a different feel and/or tone, and I personally don't doubt there is something to that. I think that years of use does things that are probably identifiable and quantifiable to a solid body electric instrument. I think that those probably amount to:
-Play wear to the neck causing a softening of the edges and a subtle 'rolling'. Wear to the frets that comes with play and proper upkeep, dressing and crowning. This is probably the most attributable factor in a 'played in' instrument.
-The pieces of a bolt on 'settling' into place more cohesively as necks are adjusted, the neck bolts tightened, play wear/tear seats the parts more completely (bridge/neck).
- Pickups age as they're based upon magnets and wire. Magnetic flux does change over time.
-There may be something to wood minimally losing moisture content over some years...but that's probably a hazy notion that's difficult to back up.
I just don't think that there's much to vibrations changing the physical aspect of a 2" thick block of wood that's most likely encased in an envelope of plastic. Even without the finish I don't see it realistically making much difference.
...Back to the goofing.
Stop trying to hoodwink the forum. You're just frustrating yourself, and all to no avail as you'll never convince anyone here, leastwise me.
And putting cheesy synth lines in to make it much more difficult for me to edit. You've no doubt noticed he continues to ignore many requests to take my challenge but he will not, at least in public. And we all know why.
Also he did a similar P/U stunt in the first batch of files, which I attributed to mere oversight. No longer. Op is a disingenuous shill.
Everyone who believes a word of any of this, raise your hands... Nobody? I thought so.
that is a very loaded way to say you dont believe. i'll raise my hand to say that there is something to it, but is anyone here explaining it in terms that are relevant to what is really happening?...my opinion of that is no. Has the OP drunk the "tone-aged" kool-aid?...yes. is anyone here in belief that wood can be "toned", and is not willing to raise their hand to protect their image of any sanity they may have left?...this is what I'll raise to.
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BurningSkies
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Well then, lets discuss 'what is happening'.
So far we have a few clips that were not produced in a uniform fashion that also appear to most if not all listeners to not have any recognizable tonal differences beyond volume which can be attributed to recording variances without any stretch of the imagination.
"what is happening" appears to be...well...nothing.
Edit: And if the OP is claiming 'more volume' but no other tonal changes...WHO CARES. I have no less than 6 volume controls on my setup. It's way more effective for me on the gig to turn a knob a little bit.
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I am not hiding the fact that I don't believe a word of it; I've said so in so many words several times in this thread.
If you keep too much of an open mind your brains will fall out.
