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Dean Club!!!

Argh! Just left the XR650L thread on advrider because it got political and out of hand. The dean club needs to be the furthest from anything and centered bass guitars.
Even if we're just looking at 'em...

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Images: Deborah Brock / David Oates / Alamy

A jury has found that Dean is guilty of both trademark infringement and counterfeiting of Gibson’s body shapes, in an apparent win for Gibson in the two companies’ legal battle.
$4,000 ?

Guitar.com: Dean guilty of trademark infringement and counterfeiting in Gibson Flying V case.
Dean guilty of trademark infringement and counterfeiting in Gibson Flying V case/
Yep, now i remember...
Gibson probably spent more on lawyers than the judgement, though Dean may have had to pay those costs...
I see a bit of irony, because all those compaies that nicked the body shapes from Gibson (Fender too) are doing a great marketing job for the Gibson/Fendsr brands...
"Everybody" knows the Gibson: Les Paul, SG, Explorer; Fender: Strat, Tele etc body shapes...

Somewhere in the back of the mind flashes the name Fender or Gibson, when viewing the "impersonators"... Mission accomplished in regards to marketing... Even though the immecizte purchase may be made for an "impersonator" brand (for lack of a better term), the flagship name brand is somewhere in the equation -- which will have some payoff somewhere down the road...for marketing, a coup -- no advertising dollars spent, but a brand presence!! Brilliant, in its simp!icity, but greed clouds the managerial perspective...

Gibson should be ashamed, as a long estsblished company of quality product, and being the victim of gov't harrasment ( Gibson busted for using the same woods that Fender also used -- no consequences for Fender)... Fender escapeted that harrassing situation....

But, back to Fender in relation to Dean and others -- the article referes to price fixing, but i either heard or read ( forget source) that Fender bullies retailers into NOT carrying the competion's product, --Dean -- and carrying primarily/only Fender... Then of course, comes in the price fixing followi g up the coersion... Have your cake and eat it too...
As BMac said, David and Goliath--

So, my point is, as Deaners ... or should i say, proud Deaners, how do you feel about Fender doing this to a brand we enjoy, and would love to have more access to?
 
Yep, now i remember...
Gibson probably spent more on lawyers than the judgement, though Dean may have had to pay those costs...
I see a bit of irony, because all those compaies that nicked the body shapes from Gibson (Fender too) are doing a great marketing job for the Gibson/Fendsr brands...
"Everybody" knows the Gibson: Les Paul, SG, Explorer; Fender: Strat, Tele etc body shapes...

Somewhere in the back of the mind flashes the name Fender or Gibson, when viewing the "impersonators"... Mission accomplished in regards to marketing... Even though the immecizte purchase may be made for an "impersonator" brand (for lack of a better term), the flagship name brand is somewhere in the equation -- which will have some payoff somewhere down the road...for marketing, a coup -- no advertising dollars spent, but a brand presence!! Brilliant, in its simp!icity, but greed clouds the managerial perspective...

Gibson should be ashamed, as a long estsblished company of quality product, and being the victim of gov't harrasment ( Gibson busted for using the same woods that Fender also used -- no consequences for Fender)... Fender escapeted that harrassing situation....

But, back to Fender in relation to Dean and others -- the article referes to price fixing, but i either heard or read ( forget source) that Fender bullies retailers into NOT carrying the competion's product, --Dean -- and carrying primarily/only Fender... Then of course, comes in the price fixing followi g up the coersion... Have your cake and eat it too...
As BMac said, David and Goliath--

So, my point is, as Deaners ... or should i say, proud Deaners, how do you feel about Fender doing this to a brand we enjoy, and would love to have more access to?
I'm lucky, I guess, as I have amassed quite a Dean collection and there's a mom & pop shop near me that is a Dean dealer. Dean Guitars - Guitars On Main - Guitars on Main that seems to have a decent selection of Dean's on hand.
And no, I am not too keen on any brand bullying any other brand or any store not to carry anything they want because some major brand doesn't want them to.
 
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I'm lucky, I guess, as I have amassed quite a Dean collection and there's a mom & pop shop near me that is a Dean dealer. Dean Guitars - Guitars On Main - Guitars on Main that seems to have a decent selection of Dean's on hand.
And no, I am not too keen on any brand bullying any other brand or any store not to carry anything they want because some major brand doesn't want them to.

Nice little neighborhood guitar shop you have there...
 
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Nice little neighborhood guitar shop you have there...
Yes, it is. A TB-er, @EdBo , bought something online from them and said they were great.

I’ve only ever been there to look around and check out the newer Dean basses which he usually only has in 5 string. I did get a set up there on one bass that turned out fine. Had a buzz on my Dean Rhapsody 8 string that I just couldn’t figure out.
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Not good.

And to add insult to injury is the supposed embezzlement by Evan!

Guitar.com: Judge orders Dean to cease production of Gran Sport, Dean V and Dean Z guitars following Gibson trademark verdict.
Judge orders Dean to cease production of Gran Sport, Dean V and Dean Z guitars following Gibson trademark verdict/

"The first generation starts a business. The second generation runs it. And the third generation ruins it."

Looks like Elliot 'Dean' Rubinson's company jumped a generation, because it looks pretty much ruined now. This pains me no end.
 
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Not good.

And to add insult to injury is the supposed embezzlement by Evan!
Hey glad n everyone else
Musicians Friend has a couple of open box Dean deals
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$975.20
They look like they need good homes, which I'm sure they'll find here!
 
Here it be!
Nothing special though. Think it's maybe an edge 4Q?View attachment 4773358

Very nice!

You have an oldy but goody! That is an earlier Dean from as early as 1997 and as late as 2000. So your bass is at least 22 years old and possibly as old as 25 years.

The 'Q' in Edge 4Q stands for quilt top, so it is not an Edge Q model. The '4' in Edge 4Q indicates it would be an active bass and yours does not appear to be active.

I have a collection of catalogs and can narrow it down for you if you take a picture of the back of the neck with S/N (or at least the first 3 characters of the S/N) at the headstock as well as a picture of the back of the bass body showing the neck connection and any back control plate(s) on the body.
 
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I just have seen a lot of nice material here. I'll be listening all JB videos from Darth_linux. Great playing.

Now I now something more about my Dean Rhapsody. Here is, waiting for re-gathering the band and with the hope for some "acoustics" gigs.

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So, it has been a few months now...did you gig with it ?