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Did I get older or did my amp get heavier?

I'm 36, my days of gigging with 810s and 412s are in the past but I'm happy at the moment moving my 410 and 115. I think when I do get tired of them I'll go for a greenboy audio 1212/6 or something light weight but still reasonable loud. For right now the worst part of moving my cabs is getting them in and out of my car. Other than that my bandmates help me get them onstage and the rest of the time I make good use of casters. I've tried some smaller cabs but they just don't cut it when the PA isn't great, we occasionally play gigs where the PA is just used for vocals and acoustic guitar so the only bass the audience hears is from my rig. Also for local festivals in my area the stages are huge and then monitors don't handle bass well if they don't have subs as part of side fills.
 
I once owned a Sound City 200 Plus head. Got it for what seemed like a very reasonable price. Pleased as punch when I picked it up and realized how much iron I'd bought for that price. By the time I got to the car, though, I knew why they had sold it. My band mates would give me crap when I had to stop and change arms all the time while carrying it. If I still had it, and tried to pick it up today, I'd likely dislocate...several things in the attempt.

I found an absolutely pristine Sunn 200S in the back of a friend's garage-- I've been losing the fight against buying it, but boy do I remember tube amps-- but they sound so goood for some things, and the 200S was a Cadillac-- maybe if I can get one of my grandsons interested in playing-- strike that, get him to roady and buy him beer (he's 24)--
 
I still have my heavy gear, but it does a lot of sitting in storage these days. I love my Ampeg SVTCL head, but dead lifting it in its road case in and out of the trunk of my car every weekend was making me worry a little. I'm in pretty good shape but I've had a semi herniated disc in my back which is fixed now, but I still remember the fun that it was.

Lately I've been using a lightweight class D amp in my six space rack, so the wireless, preamp for foh, effects, and amp are in one tidy box. I play a lot of medium sized stages, so about the smallest cabs I run are a 410 cab. I have a GK neo 212 I use in small rooms, but it can get swallowed pretty easy.

I'd really like to audition a Bergantino cab for some shows, as they do sound really good and are compact. I'm jealous of you guys that can get by with running just a single 10 or 12 at a gig. Unless I'm missing something with some new high tech cabs, those don't move enough air for me on a stage I'm not running in ear monitoring for.
 
A few years ago I decided to stop gigging with my GK 800RB (which wasn't light) and my Kustom 215 tuck-n-roll cab (that had to way well over 100 lbs) and get something lighter and easier to move. I went with Markbass. And while I love my rig, I now know that I could have gone even lighter (Fender Rumble, Barefaced,fEarless, GK Neo, etc). As long as you know that the standard rule applies (weight/cost/tone - pick 2 you want), you can go pretty darned light.

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Musicians nowadays are wimps. Back in the day, I was a keyboard player and I hauled a 400 lb Hammond and 2 x 90 lb Leslies. Oh - I forgot - I also had a 76 lb EV Eliminator 1 for my synths.

Back in the day, serious bass players used a couple of Acoustic 18 inch bottoms or a couple of triple 15 Kustoms. This was before the SVT was invented.

Well, "back in the day" I used to drag my 950-pound 20 x 18 cabinet through the snow by a length of barbwire held between my teeth, naked, over the mountains, with my bass in one hand, tube head in the other, and obese girlfriend on my back.
 
It's time to cut your loses and move on to light weight amplifier heads and some light 2*12, or in my case 2*10 cabinet My Svt refrigerator is retired and sees playing time in my music room only.
Some times when my back starts hurting I just bring the Di and no amp. I came to the reality that I can get my Svt tone out of a pedal a few years ago. I wish they had that when I was lugging two Svt amp heads and 3 8*10 cabinets across the country. I probably would be able to stand without as much pain today.
 
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Musicians nowadays are wimps. Back in the day, I was a keyboard player and I hauled a 400 lb Hammond and 2 x 90 lb Leslies. Oh - I forgot - I also had a 76 lb EV Eliminator 1 for my synths.

Back in the day, serious bass players used a couple of Acoustic 18 inch bottoms or a couple of triple 15 Kustoms. This was before the SVT was invented.

Not all of us.:roflmao::bassist: I'm 64 and almost always take half of this to gigs unless it's just ridiculous. Never any ear plugs and I still hear fine, you're only as old as you feel.
 
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Musicians nowadays are wimps. Back in the day, I was a keyboard player and I hauled a 400 lb Hammond and 2 x 90 lb Leslies. Oh - I forgot - I also had a 76 lb EV Eliminator 1 for my synths.

Back in the day, serious bass players used a couple of Acoustic 18 inch bottoms or a couple of triple 15 Kustoms. This was before the SVT was invented.

... back in the day we also used to stand in front of that stuff because we had to carry an old arena or armory building with it, while our big square Altec VOT PA cabs had to carry the vocals over the top ... and, back in the day, nobody used ear protection ... and now, (no longer back in the day) if we are lucky, we hear about half of what we should be hearing ...

I for one, am glad we are no longer 'back in the day' ...
 
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A few years ago I decided to stop gigging with my GK 800RB (which wasn't light) and my Kustom 215 tuck-n-roll cab (that had to way well over 100 lbs) and get something lighter and easier to move. I went with Markbass. And while I love my rig, I now know that I could have gone even lighter (Fender Rumble, Barefaced,fEarless, GK Neo, etc). As long as you know that the standard rule applies (weight/cost/tone - pick 2 you want), you can go pretty darned light.

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I'm sure your MarkBass rig kicks hard!
 
I did a gig recently with two Eden EX110's and a GK MB500. We were playing downstairs. A guitarist eating in the restaraunt upstairs said he felt the bass through the floor and had to come down for a listen. I did turn down a little after that.... :cool:

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At this point the only upgrade I see in the future is one of these guys. Of course I will keep my MB200 and MB500 as backups.. :)

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Back to the original point-- Yes we are getting older and heavier! :roflmao:
 
Kinda funny, a new band I jammed with tonight had two no-master SVT's in the rehearsal room. Just used one head (second is the spare) but it was connected to both cabs, a towel bar and a flat back. They said they'd bring an SVT to gigs for me :wideyed: but I'd rather have my regular Aguilar TH-350 and two 12's or two 15's. Just looking at that rig 'bout gave me a hernia LOL.

Oh, and there was an old tuck'n'roll Kustom rig too. Maybe I'll try that next time...
 
Im still gigging with my MKIV head through my 1820 cab 26 years later..it really pushes some air and lacks for nothing at any size gig. I agree with everyone though that it's a very heavy cab and its a wonder after 26 years of dragging it around I havent got a hernia. From some research ive done its probably 120 pounds plus. I play a Peavey '91 Dyna Bass through the rig as well and it really does make for a good match. Its gotta be about time now to grab a lighter punchy rig of some sort.
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