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Did I get older or did my amp get heavier?

Ever own or move a B-15S? I have one and to move it I have to take the head out of it and move the head and cab separately it's so heavy, I think it weighs something like 120 lbs. The B-18 is light compared to it, it pretty much stays in my house.
That is what kept me from buying one or both of the B-15S amps that a (now defunct) local shop had in at the same time. IIRC, they wanted around $650 for each of them; great price but not worth the schlep to me.
 
Weird. Now I am playing KB. I think a Leslie 122 is more like 125 lb. I still bring one, though the load in/out is easier due to a neo 15 and Ampeg skid rails. The Nord C2D is 57 lb in the "soft" case. Then there's the stand and bench. It is multiple trips.

The bass player (in another band he was guitar, I was bass), plays an AG700 and Berg HDN112, 33 lb total, one trip. I think I went the wrong direction.

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There are some Very good Leslie simulator pedals including one Made by Leslie. Just sayin':)
 
Would you ask a brick layer to stop using bricks? Would you ask an artist to stop using paint? Would you stop a banker from dealing with money? Hearing yourself and gigging with real audible, hit you hard bass, are 2 different things.
Some people don't have your needs. For many, a good micro amp and 2x12" or even 1x12" or 2x10" will get the job done.
 
I know it came off as harsh, but that's not my intention. I want to keep playing for as long as I live and I understand that I may have to sacrifice some time myself. It's not just for me feeling it myself, but my drummer and friends in the audience say that when I run smaller rigs they can tell a difference. In my opinion, nothing else accounts for sheer size and air. I hope to be able to take the rigs I really enjoyed today to the gigs I play when I'm older, but then again I may not be playing heavy metal or hard rock.

@FingerDub I understand no ill intent. A couple thoughts to ponder. First there are plenty of rock bands from the 70's that are pushing 70 years old that are playing some variety of vintage heavy metal. Heavy metal doesn't just belong to one age group.

Second, it would be interesting if you put up a curtain in front of your stage amp and DI'ed it through the FOH and monitors. First the "fridge" then a Class D with a couple Neo cabinets. Once the cab mixes with the rest of the band and throws out to the audience, it might have a different character than onstage. You might be surprised. For some people it isn't about having the biggest amp onstage, it's about using the best advanced technologies and achieving similar or superior results. On the flip side of that coin, if you enjoy your large gear, I wish for you all the happiness it gives you.
 
@FingerDub I understand no ill intent. A couple thoughts to ponder. First there are plenty of rock bands from the 70's that are pushing 70 years old that are playing some variety of vintage heavy metal. Heavy metal doesn't just belong to one age group.

Second, it would be interesting if you put up a curtain in front of your stage amp and DI'ed it through the FOH and monitors. First the "fridge" then a Class D with a couple Neo cabinets. Once the cab mixes with the rest of the band and throws out to the audience, it might have a different character than onstage. You might be surprised. For some people it isn't about having the biggest amp onstage, it's about using the best advanced technologies and achieving similar or superior results. On the flip side of that coin, if you enjoy your large gear, I wish for you all the happiness it gives you.
I have been going to Chicago concerts with my daughter for about 15 years. At the first one we went to I was looking at the opening act's amps and other equipment. When they finished, the roadies rolled that stuff outta the way. Good. Now I could see what amps Chicago was using. Answer? None. Everything direct/wireless to the PA. I've since seen them on a double bill with Earth, Wind And Fire 4 times. Not one amp between them. And they Don't have to move their own gear! I had a "fridge" in the 70s. Now I have a Rumble 200c-more than enough for our gigs. Load in/out w/ one hand:hyper::D
 
I'm 57 now and still playing heavy, rockin originals.
The cabs aren't that bad, I have those rolling flats from Home Depot for about $12.
It's the damn amp that weighs so much!
And it's awkward to carry. So I always get a friend to help carry it. No sense in breaking my back before I play.
I have to be first at the gig so I can string PA cables b4 everyone else gets there, so No help(NO FOH-all us):rollno:. They help in load out but I'm already sweatin' my @ss off b4 the first note:(
 
I'm not gigging with anything less than a 2x12, 1x15 and 1x12 or a 4x10. It has to have massive overhead at any gig. If a "micro rig" can do that, then fine but I've never seen one that could. Even my 2, 1x12 Aguilars barely had enough beef. I'm skeptical about any of that low weight stuff. It seems to be only endorsed by guys who are fed up physically or can't handle the rigors of gigging properly anymore.
Well, you're WRONG! If you brought that to a couple of the smaller rooms we play, you'd be by yourself 'cause there wouldn't be room for the rest of the band. Not all rooms have a stage and space for 200+ people, so if that's the kinda gigs you get And you wanna carry all that crap, knock yourself out. But get offa your high horse!
 
I know it came off as harsh, but that's not my intention. I want to keep playing for as long as I live and I understand that I may have to sacrifice some time myself. It's not just for me feeling it myself, but my drummer and friends in the audience say that when I run smaller rigs they can tell a difference. In my opinion, nothing else accounts for sheer size and air. I hope to be able to take the rigs I really enjoyed today to the gigs I play when I'm older, but then again I may not be playing heavy metal or hard rock.

I would never sacrifice tone for weight. And, you don't have to. But, there is no reason to carry around 3/4" baltic birch cabs or worse still 3/4" particle board cabs thinking those materials are necessary to bring the horsepower and boom. They are most definitely not.
 
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Or if there's decent PA support ...

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No, I already had the sound system. There isn't any "band" equipment and for what places pay around here, the other guys weren't gonna buy another PA. But yer entitled to yer opinion. BTW, Thunderbirds Rule!
BTDT with regard to be the owner/responsible band member with the PA system. I will never do so again.

Thunderbirds? The Air Force flying team, or do mean the now defunct Ford car model?
 
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BTDT with regard to be the owner/responsible band member with the PA system. I will never do so again.

Thunderbirds? The Air Force flying team, or do mean the now defunct Ford car model?
OK, for openers, I'm ex-Navy, so it's Blue Angels. Second, I'm blessed(?) w/ short-ish fingers so I'm partial to Gibson necks,thus, my '67 Thunderbird is my bass of choice. This area has lots of money but the clubs don't like to spend any for entertainment. Our quartet is fighting a losing battle w/ singles playing to tracks and the audience doesn't seem to care. The clubs tell us what they'll pay and we can either play or sit home with our thumbs up our keesters. Thankfully, none of us is relying on the income to live
 
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I got out of the club scene for similar reasons, it wasn't worth the bother anymore.

An old friend had (maybe still does) a Thunderbird IV from the early 1960s. I last saw him and the bass in the mid '70s. He played it through one of those Gibson Titan amps and cab, the trapezoidal ones.
Wow! I haven't seen or even heard of one of those in Ages. I Had a "fridge" which I sold to someone Much younger. I've kept a 1970 Kasino just 'cause ya never know-and nobody would give me anything for it-but now I use a Rumble 40 for the restaurant/lounge gigs and a Rumble 200c for bigger rooms. Load the amp in my van with one hand. I don't think I could Ever do that with the SVT!
 
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