Regardless if the daughter told her Dad or not about the boyfriend, it's his house - his rules. The boyfriend is lucky he's alive. Not sure what I would do but this is probably why I don't own any guns.
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Did this dad overreact??
- Thread starter JacoLesFlea
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Hmm..seems kinda harsh in my book. Were you living in your parent's house at the time? My hope is that by the time by (now 7) daughter is 18 she'll be able to make her own wise decisions which will be based on my instructing her now through her early and adolescent childhood. That's what a parent (and especially a Dad) is for.
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This is a great answer. As the father of a daughter I must concur. With the following exception:
When she's 18 and not living under my roof she can do as she wishes. At that point, I must trust that I've done my job and she's capable of making adult decisions.
But yeah, great post.
I think few people are arguing that he should let her have sex freely..
I just think that beating the poor kid with a pipe, which could kill him, is completely frickin losing control of yourself, and much more punishment than necessary for a dumb teenager being a dumb teenager.
The fact that she was able to hide this guy for a year seems to indicate her dad really isn't that in touch with his daughter.
While you can make up all the off-chance possibilities for why she hid the kid, most of them still come down to blaming the father.. "the boyfriend had a stutter".. If she doesn't want to tell her parents about her boyfriend because he has a stutter, well they have instilled entirely incorrect values in their child..
I didn't see the first kid, but if I saw the second one on my daughter, I'd kill her.
She could do so much better.
She could do so much better.
^^^That.
How many stories have you heard of a woman trespassing into a home and raping people?
I'm sorry, whilst I do think he has an "excuse" for his actions, and multiple reasons to be angry, I don't think I lead pipe beating was right. It's not right under any circumstances. You suggest that he could have been raping her, yet he wasn't. Had the father taken about 5 more seconds to assess the situation (in which time the daughter could have said: he's my boyfriend) he could have dealt with the situation better. He could eject the male from the house, verbally abuse him or whatever he wanted. In this situation I think that 5 seconds was the difference between a non-violent solution and a pipe-bashing, I don't see how you can get around that.
p.s. Mike, I do respect your opinions and as a father I think yours are more valid than mine. I'm just calling it how I see it and we, being in different situations see it differently obviously. However I will say that neither of us, or anyone else in this thread knows enough about the families situations, the nature of the father, daughter or boyfriend to base any sort of final assessment on the matter. I hope that my views have not offended you as a father, as I am sure you do a great job
p.s. Mike, I do respect your opinions and as a father I think yours are more valid than mine. I'm just calling it how I see it and we, being in different situations see it differently obviously. However I will say that neither of us, or anyone else in this thread knows enough about the families situations, the nature of the father, daughter or boyfriend to base any sort of final assessment on the matter. I hope that my views have not offended you as a father, as I am sure you do a great job
yeh, i'd definitely hide my..uh, significant other from some of you daddies.
chances are, this young lady knew exactly what would happen if she brought a dude home, either thru the door or thru a window.
even with the bestest of intentions, honor system still rules.
p.s.: so...did i miss something? where's the mom?
chances are, this young lady knew exactly what would happen if she brought a dude home, either thru the door or thru a window.
even with the bestest of intentions, honor system still rules.
p.s.: so...did i miss something? where's the mom?
I wouldn't say they are more valid, but my entire view on a lot of things changed when I began having little people who relied on my for everything. Yours probably will too, I don't know.
Before kids, I'd have never bought an SUV, for instance. Once I had 10lbs of helpless flesh to watch over every second of the day, my first instinct was to wrap them in as much heavy steel as possible when travelling. You jolt when you seen them trip and are usually there before they finish hitting the ground. When you hear a thud in the other room and a short silence, you start running because you know the crying is just winding up and that someone is hurt. The instinct to ensure their safety pretty much overrides eveything else.
So, when I say I wouldn't think twice about beating a strange naked guy in one of my daughter's rooms, it's not an "internet tough guy" act; it's the gods-honest truth.
Would I take the time to locate a pipe? No. I'm surprised no one has gone down that road as it would have been better support for their argument than namecalling, but I guess it required more thought.
Mike
The moment he picked up the pipe, it was no longer protecting a daughter, but giving in to a lust for punishment and vengeance.
As I dad, I have an obligation to keep overheated monkeys off my daughter and an obligation to keep my sons from turning into overheated monkeys. That's called protecting my neighbors' daughter. (Remember neighbors?) I don't have the right to pound people into the hospital with a lead pipe after they've stopped being a threat. As far as the respect-kids-choice thing: It's not about distrusting the children's integrity, it's about distrusting their judgement, and the only reason for that is that their judgement isn't fully formed yet.
As I dad, I have an obligation to keep overheated monkeys off my daughter and an obligation to keep my sons from turning into overheated monkeys. That's called protecting my neighbors' daughter. (Remember neighbors?) I don't have the right to pound people into the hospital with a lead pipe after they've stopped being a threat. As far as the respect-kids-choice thing: It's not about distrusting the children's integrity, it's about distrusting their judgement, and the only reason for that is that their judgement isn't fully formed yet.
Wow. I'm a little surprised by some of this.
I'd be Infuriated. I'd be screaming. I'd try to scare the crap out the guy. I might wave a bat. But, no way I'd actually hit the guy.
It might feel good to talk about taking someone out with
a pipe or a bat, but regardless of right and wrong here,
that's a really fast way to go to jail.
I'd be Infuriated. I'd be screaming. I'd try to scare the crap out the guy. I might wave a bat. But, no way I'd actually hit the guy.
It might feel good to talk about taking someone out with
a pipe or a bat, but regardless of right and wrong here,
that's a really fast way to go to jail.
Key phrase:
> When she's 18 and not living under my roof she
> can do as she wishes.
Something I'm struggling with Right Now with my 19
year old daughter. A daughter who now thinks that since
she lived out of the house for the past year on a dance tour,
she can do as she pleases now that she's home.
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